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I spoke hastily Blackbird, now I'm not sure what I meant....... My own experience with immigrants is that they come here and dismiss and are mostly rude to me, who is one of those that work and pay taxes and give them medical care, schooling and so forth. I don't expect a thank you, but please...

are you saying that it is ok to come here if you hate us, have no roots here and have no intentions of becoming part of us?

I have hopes that if necessary, one could continue to garden with the river. I'm trying a winter garden, so far the earliest I have planted and had them grow was beets planted in January, but need to figure out the latest I can plant, the goal being year round source of veggies or fruits.

lol, I am lucky.......... You will know where I am, just a few miles above Springville, got the north fork of the Tule river in the back, creek out front. I came from AZ so the water is heaven, BUT this is a 3rd world country most of the time! edited to clarify I meant the big city coastal...

:hugs LdyChef2k I also find that at this time of the year with the days getting shorter a lack of desire to start anything big or maybe its a feeling of overwhelmingness, must be a desire to hibernate!

Hugs to you and your family, I was thinking when I was reading the thread that he would be somebody I would like to have met. :hugs

Here, BYC and American Paso Finos

I grew up and lived most of my adult life in AZ where they leave the time alone. We moved here a few years ago and the DST gives me jet lag both ways each time so a couple of years ago I only changed one clock to "their" time as I can never remember if its ahead or behind or what, but...

The California crazies must be escaping! Seriously, I too would be very concerned. Am I the only one that thinks farmers large and small are being regulated out of business?

that is an amazing story!

mm mmm mmmm more hands raised in praise he had to have been nominated 2 weeks into office, so, who nominated him and why again?

unfortunately the people that vote for Feinstein live in San Francisco, they probably weren't watcing cspan today, and if they were, don't understand where their food comes from.

and politics rears its ugly head, on cspan2 right now, R-Senator DeMint form SC introduced a bill opening the pumps for 1 year while this was worked out, D-Feinstein is furious, this did not go through her group, how dare they, she even said 80% of that water was for Agricultural use, but they...

yeah, shame on the famers huh, I'm sure they were surprised to find out they put themselves out of business by selling their water rights. He was way out there. The farmers have held marches, interior secrectary came awhile back, but once they decided that those smelt fed the whales, (really?)...

I did of course, I live in the mountains above the San Joaquin Valley. Its a horrible story, they didn't have time to touch on all of the story. Pelosi and Miller have stopped any attempt to open those pumps, the Marine and Wildlife Biology dept in Washington said that the killer whale might...

I just googled Ezekill Emanuel, OMG, scary! Everyone should be aware of his thought process and his position as advisor. I worry that the same government that its ok to export our good jobs over seas, and to import goods and foods that are contaminated with poisons is the same government that...

How cool is that!? Congradulations!!!!!! :clap

:hugs you know the saying, when one door closes, another opens!

"Even the potus has said the US needs to stop spending money" yeah, I read that yesterday, he said almost the same words that the tea party people said, that he made so much fun of, now hes concerned for the childrens future............ all of those trillions of dollars for bail outs and they...

I pray for the best for you. :hugs and prayers