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We'll after a ton of looking and researching. we will be going to Kentucky today to purchase a 13,000 peak, 10,500 running watt generator.

This is the biggest portable generator we could find. It has a 50 amp 220v recepitical and runs on gasoline or propane, plus has a 3 year warranty.

I'll be designing and installing a transfer switch for this generator and wiring it in to our main electric trunk, so it can power all the buildings. Our greatest chance of power outages is in the summer. So I needed something large enough to start the air conditioner compressors.


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My wife and I thought and discussed this long and hard... she quickly found out that just because you have a generator, it doesn't mean life goes on uninterrupted.

With whole house systems like generac (which are nice BTW). One thing I think people don't realize is during a power outage it could effect natural gas lines. So this gasoline/propane one seems to offer the most flexability for our farm. Since I already own a 500 gallon propane tank for the tankless hot water heater and house furnace.

I was told we do have access to natural gas on my side of the road. But honestly, I would rather stick with propane, since I own my own tank and we have a good relationship with out propane company.

The generator is pretty heavy at 240 lbs, so I mostly likely will put it on a cement pad and build some easily to open on all sides and roof small shack and leave it in the shack. Open the shack and start it when needed.

IDK like I said we attacked this generator thing from all angles we could think of and decided on this one.

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I would have gone with the whole house generator and told them you wanted PROPANE not natural gas.

I looked at one similar to what you are going to get. Gasoline/propane also. Then I had the chance to buy this house, got my ankle replaced, then covid upsetting the world, moving with a boot on my ankle and then the knees so bad and now replaced. I am seriously looking at the whole house one for a future investment. I have propane for the kitchen stove and small "fireplace type" heater in the house.
I think you will like having it... and if summer is the problem time then at least you won't be out fighting the cold and snow to get it started....
 

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I would have gone with the whole house generator and told them you wanted PROPANE not natural gas.

I looked at one similar to what you are going to get. Gasoline/propane also. Then I had the chance to buy this house, got my ankle replaced, then covid upsetting the world, moving with a boot on my ankle and then the knees so bad and now replaced. I am seriously looking at the whole house one for a future investment. I have propane for the kitchen stove and small "fireplace type" heater in the house.
I think you will like having it... and if summer is the problem time then at least you won't be out fighting the cold and snow to get it started....
The generac's are nice but expensive. I was told at home depot, you get on a waiting list for a visit from a sales person. Pick the unit out and then you also have to pay for installation to have the warranty valid. I didn't see any models in the catalog but natural gas. But We quickly came to the conclusion that they were a bit to much for what we needed. I told my wife if we are on emergency generator power, you'll need to make a few adjustments... like drying clothes at night and even though every light is LED, we'll still need to be mindful to turn lights off when we don't need them and we may or may not be able to use the electric oven? Our saving grace is we have a tankless hot water heater that runs off propane. So the biggest things that need to run are our freezers, refrigerators and start the air conditioner compressors

This evening I took the opportunity to take my wife out to dinner while in kentucky. Then we ordered the generator from lowes, they said it's due to arrive at the store for inspection and pickup January 21st. We got a nice discount on the generator thanks to the store manager 👍

BTW Gasoline is way cheaper in kentucky than illinois. I filled the bus up at a Shell. The bus didn't know what to think about being filled up with good gasoline instead of E85. It purred like a kitten.

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The thing is a hawse. Tomorrow I'm gonna fill it with valvoline 10w30 full synthetic and some 89 octane and give it a test fire.View attachment 18152

it comes with steel body parts including the gas tank. A battery for electric push button start plus a recoil (pull rope) starter. It also comes with oil filler tube and funnel, all the electric plug ends, propane hose including regulator for propane bottle operation, a cheap tool bag full of cheap tools to assemble it and manuals, maintenance log book and SWAG (stickers).
View attachment 18153

I'll post more about it after the test fire. I hope I'll never have to use it, but it's good to have one.just in case you get into an emergency situation.

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dont fill it with passenger car motor oil. it doesnt have anough zddp and will cause damage and excessive wear. use a heavy duty engine oil like rotella, or delo 10w30 or sae hd 30 or 15w40. i run 15w40 in mine but i live in texas where it doesnt get too cold often.
also unless you wanna rebuild the carburetor often i suggest filling it with non ethanol gas if you can find it or just run it on propane. ethanol gas will rot the carb if it sits.
 

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I've been working for years on making us as energy-independant as possible. We dry clothes outside in the summer; in winter we have a couple of lines in the utility room (long enough to hold at least one wash load), and I bought a wringer to help with hand washing. Wood stove for heat, and cooking if necessary. We also have a Wonderbag for a non-electric slow cooker, a solar oven, and the grill outside. The well has dual power- electric and solar, although in the winter we can generally only get one or two hours of solar power. That's enough to fill a 50 gallon container though. Once we get the double paned windows installed this year, it should help keep the house warmer in winter and cooler in summer, and I want to install some simple awnings for the south and west facing windows. We've managed without air conditioning for several years, but this would increase the comfort levels. The only thing I still really need electricity for is the fridge and freezer. DH bought a "solar powered generator" several years back, but he's not done anything with it yet, so I don't know if it has enough power to take care of them. I hope so.
 

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The guy I used to farm sit for had a whole house generator and it was propane. We had a Derrechio wind come through and lost power for days in late June several years ago... it was brutally hot and I hauled water for cattle at pastures where the only water available was from wells due to all the "fencing the livestock out of the streams " that was pushed.... and I could at least take showers at his house. He was in Alaska... but it kicked on right after the power went out. Most everything here is either diesel or propane because we do not have natural gas available.

Sounds like it was nice trip away for you. Glad you enjoyed it.

Also, drying clothes is for the outside clothes line.... I don't even have a dryer here at the house... it has been in the storage trailer for over 20 years....
 
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