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Man Jailed For Collecting Rain Water

Discussion in 'Resource Conservation - Water, Air, Earth, Etc.' started by Pirtykitty, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. Aug 14, 2012
    Pirtykitty

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    rhoda_bruce

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    I don't find that is justice. Water being public???? If you have room and want to collect water....I say do it.
     
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    so lucky

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    Ironic that the officials claim the water as public property, yet part of his punishment is to drain the reservoirs. Waste that public water??:barnie
     
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    Denim Deb

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    He had a permit, and now they've decided it's no good? I'd fight it too.
     
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    Hinotori

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    This article has more info in it. This apparently isn't the first time they've had issues with him over this.
     
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    luvinlife offthegrid

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    Just read the other article. It's his property. I guess any "landscaping" on that scale is subject to permitting. The "publically owned resource" bit is interesting though.
     
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    k15n1

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    I think public ownership of resources is often a good thing. Well, good in the sense that private ownership is worse. For example, the public ownership of beaches is clearly good for the masses (us), but that right to walk along the shore of the Pacific Ocean [1] is only preserved by legal action as demonstrated in southern CA the last few decades. Public owership of water may seem unfair, but there's so many reasons it can't be privately owned. Rivers are needed for transport---you can't just buy land on both sides of the Mississippi and start building a dam. And if some farmers (big-big-time ag) had their way, rivers would be pumped down to ecologically dangerous (and smelly) levels. Management of reservoirs and rivers effects so many people that we need to agree and have policy. Same goes for forest resources---Haiti is a great example of what happens when the forest is not managed and people are left to their own devices [2,3].

    OK, done ranting. You're allowed to have a different opinion than me, obviously, so don't be upset when you read mine :)

    1. http://www.kqed.org/w/coastalclash/recreation.html
    2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_in_Haiti
    3. http://goo.gl/maps/YKIQq




    (I find the title of this post misleading. Collecting rainwater canotes a few 55-gal drums in a urban setting This guy has created multiple ponds on his property, which isn't even the same thing. True, it was rain water at some point in time, but they are reservoirs, not rain barrels. I don't mean to make the original poster feel bad or something. My point is simply that overstating your case undermines your credibility.)
     
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    luvinlife offthegrid

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    I agree with your POV. I know that there are some debates right now over collecting water from residential roofs in the dryer states (maybe Nevada and/or Arizona?). I collect rain from my gutters for 2 300 gallon ag tanks to water the garden and wash if the well goes dry. I clicked the article and thought, "ok this is something different entirely".

    I'm glad that there are regs regarding keeping air and waiter clean. There isn't enough being done in that area, IMO.
     
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    Denim Deb

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    The problem I have is he had a permit. So, it's not like he just decided to go and put a pond in w/out going thru the proper channels. And, now that he has them, I'm sure there's all kind of wildlife that's using it for various purposes. It's a catch 22 situation.
     
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    Hinotori

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    From what I'd saw on the news, he dammed seasonal streams to make his ponds. That effects everything and everyone downstream badly.
     

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