milk protien intolerance?! PLEASE HELP!

[ohiogoatgirl]

hello. well i'm having some bodily issues since i've moved. i'm living on the farm now, where i've spent most of my life except from mid june 2011 to mid november 2011. i'm trying to figure out what the differences might be between here on the farm and where had been living.

here are the differences i've come up with:
i was less active when i lived there, versus here on the farm.
i ate mostly the same food as here on the farm <ate more eggs there, thats one thing i'm gonna experiment with>
drank very little milk <i have goats here on the farm and dont care for drinkin plain milk anyhow>

and thats all as far as i can think of. the one thats really stickin out in my mind is the milk though. i mean i dont like milk a whole lot so even here on the farm i usually only have it in my cereal <so about 2 cups a day, for maybe 4 out of 7 days of the week> and maybe if i'm in the mood for it i'll have some milk with chocolate syrup <so about 2 cups once or twice a week>. and i've noticed in the past few years that products with powdered milk in them tend to upset my stomach. <hot cocoa mix, mac-n-cheese, alfredo noodles, etc.>

and since unfortunately my, quite honestly, not so little bodily issue is constipation i've looked up constipation. well it seems the most fitting thing so far is milk protien intolerance. and since the milk is the only real change i'm kinda worried.

there is store bought cows mlk in the house as well as raw, unpasturized goats milk. i go for the goat milk unless the goats are dried off, which they aren't right now. the info i've found so far says "cows milk" or just says milk... is their a difference in the milk protiens?

any help or info on this would be greatly appreciated!
thanks!

 

[moolie]

Milk issues aren't easy to self-diagnose, so I'd see a doctor or allergist to find out what the problem is.

I'm mildly lactose-intolerant (can have some fermented dairy each day like yogurt, cheese, kefir etc. but not regular milk).

My understanding is that there are definite differences in the make up of the milk of different species, I'm sure it's not too difficult to research once you find out what you are reacting to

 

[Wannabefree]

There is another common protein that is in powdered milk products amongst other things and causes constipation as a symptom. Monosodium glutamate, or MSG. It's difficult to pin down though because there are hundreds of names it goes by on labels, and it's in almost everything prepackaged. My daughter has very bad digestive issues with it, amongst other worse symptoms like severe swelling and headaches. She doesn't always have all the symptoms either though.

Another point to be made is you can develop allergies to things you have always been able to have, at any point in your life. I used to eat soynuts, now I can't even have things that have trace ammounts of soy in them without full blown panic attack and asthma attack almost instantly.

I hope you find out soon what it is. Look up elimination diet and do one on yourself. Once you have a suspect ingredient, THEN back it up with seeing your doctor. It took me a week and a half to figure out what was causing all my problems, and no Dr. bill The Dr. bill came when I saw my doctor to verify my own findings. With DD, it took 4 years, several trips to LeBohneur, specialists, doctors, even changed doctors to see if we could get her some help! It is very frustrating when you rely solely on the doctors to help you. Elimination diet worked on DD in 2 weeks, meanwhile they were testing her for lupus and schleroderma..guess what...both tests were negative, and when I told them my findings THEN the light bulb went off in their heads and they agreed The point is nobody knows your body like you do. You know when you're having symptoms, start tracking your food and find the culprit

 

[hqueen13]

I will also note that you've pointed out that the items that seem to be a problem deal with powdered milk, not the actual real milk. If that is the case, then it is possible that its the processed issue, and may not have to do with the actual milk.

I have a story about milk, too. I've drank milk since I was a kid and love it. I also have pretty bad spring allergies to tree pollen. About 2 years ago we hired a new coworker, and since then she and I have become really close friends. Not long after she started working with us she mentioned that she wondered if I was actually dealing with a milk allergy not a pollen allergy. I blew it off for a long time, drinking about 8 oz of milk a day and eating a 'portion' of store bought yogurt. Finally, for some reason, I decided to give it a try, and stopped with pretty much all dairy for about a week. Instantly my prepetually runny nose cleared up. Just gone.

Shortly after that we found a source of raw dairy products. I found very quickly that raw dairy did not have the same affect on me that processed dairy does. I can drink raw dairy with virtually no problem, as long as I don't drink/eat too much several days in a row.

Experiment a bit, and see what happens. Best of luck.

 

[~gd]

There is another common protein that is in powdered milk products amongst other things and causes constipation as a symptom. Monosodium glutamate, or MSG. It's difficult to pin down though because there are hundreds of names it goes by on labels, and it's in almost everything prepackaged. My daughter has very bad digestive issues with it, amongst other worse symptoms like severe swelling and headaches. She doesn't always have all the symptoms either though.

Another point to be made is you can develop allergies to things you have always been able to have, at any point in your life. I used to eat soynuts, now I can't even have things that have trace ammounts of soy in them without full blown panic attack and asthma attack almost instantly.

I hope you find out soon what it is. Look up elimination diet and do one on yourself. Once you have a suspect ingredient, THEN back it up with seeing your doctor. It took me a week and a half to figure out what was causing all my problems, and no Dr. bill The Dr. bill came when I saw my doctor to verify my own findings. With DD, it took 4 years, several trips to LeBohneur, specialists, doctors, even changed doctors to see if we could get her some help! It is very frustrating when you rely solely on the doctors to help you. Elimination diet worked on DD in 2 weeks, meanwhile they were testing her for lupus and schleroderma..guess what...both tests were negative, and when I told them my findings THEN the light bulb went off in their heads and they agreed The point is nobody knows your body like you do. You know when you're having symptoms, start tracking your food and find the culprit

One little correction MonoSodium Glutamate is a salt not a protein. MSG has to be on the label if added as such but there of tons of things that contain glutamates Naturally the law should be changed to contains glutamates like is done for the other fsmily of salts namely sulfides~gd

 

[ohiogoatgirl]

<sigh> well just found this : http://www.foodreactions.org/allergy/milk.html

Skin Reactions:
* Itchy red rash
* Hives
* Eczema
* Swelling of lips, mouth, tongue, face or throat
* Allergic "Shiners" (black eyes)
Stomach and Intestinal Reactions:
* Abdominal pain and bloating
* Diarrhoea (usually very runny)
* Vomiting
* Gas/wind
* Cramps
Nose, Throat and Lung Reactions:
* Runny Nose
* Sneezing
* Watery and/or Itchy eyes
* Coughing
* Wheezing
* Shortness of Breath

hives/red rash- i've had these little red rash things off and on for years. i dont know if they are hives or somethin unrelated. i did an image search for hives and this kinda looks like a few of those except i usually only have one or two little spots. they dont itch or anything, they just look kinda scaley and dry. i currently have one little one about 2 inches to the left of my belly button. i have no idea when it showed up. i get bumps and bruises and scrapes all the time so i dont usually pay em no mind.

swelling- i dont think so, though many people say i have very red skin. people will ask all year round if i'm sunburned/when i went tanning and why'd i stay in so long. <which i find just laughable! me? in a tan salon? HAHAHA!!!> not sure if that'd be related. i'm a bit of a pudgy build so its not too noticeable if my face were to swell a tad.

abdominal pain- good heavens yes... like someones in my guts trying to cut their way out!

cramps- they rank up there with the abdominal pain. sometimes i can go for a week or more with none. sometimes for several days or weeks they will hit me like a semitruck pullin two trailers. out of nowhere i'll be doubled over in pain, just about crying <and it takes ALOT for me to cry. i mean i got a nail in my foot and didnt cry, got a 1/2inch "sliver" in the palm of my foot and didnt cry, and these cramps can make me cry, or at least wanna cry really bad>. the cramps have been going on since about sixth grade, undiagnosed by anyone. mom said once that she thought it was premenstrual cramps... nope, didnt start my period for several years.

and i had none of these symptoms while living at the last place, not the farm.
guess i'm going on a "milk fast"... no milk for me. at least this way i can narrow it down to milk or not milk.

 

[luvinlife offthegrid]

I second hq13's suggestion. My aunt stopped wheat first. Her symptoms got a LOT better, but she wasn't perfect. Then she stopped dairy. She hasn't taken antihistamines since. Her asthma has disappeared. She tested negative for allergies to both. I am working myself up to try it too. Try it for 6 weeks. If there is no change then you can always to back to it.

 

[Wannabefree]

There is another common protein that is in powdered milk products amongst other things and causes constipation as a symptom. Monosodium glutamate, or MSG. It's difficult to pin down though because there are hundreds of names it goes by on labels, and it's in almost everything prepackaged. My daughter has very bad digestive issues with it, amongst other worse symptoms like severe swelling and headaches. She doesn't always have all the symptoms either though.

Another point to be made is you can develop allergies to things you have always been able to have, at any point in your life. I used to eat soynuts, now I can't even have things that have trace ammounts of soy in them without full blown panic attack and asthma attack almost instantly.

I hope you find out soon what it is. Look up elimination diet and do one on yourself. Once you have a suspect ingredient, THEN back it up with seeing your doctor. It took me a week and a half to figure out what was causing all my problems, and no Dr. bill The Dr. bill came when I saw my doctor to verify my own findings. With DD, it took 4 years, several trips to LeBohneur, specialists, doctors, even changed doctors to see if we could get her some help! It is very frustrating when you rely solely on the doctors to help you. Elimination diet worked on DD in 2 weeks, meanwhile they were testing her for lupus and schleroderma..guess what...both tests were negative, and when I told them my findings THEN the light bulb went off in their heads and they agreed The point is nobody knows your body like you do. You know when you're having symptoms, start tracking your food and find the culprit

One little correction MonoSodium Glutamate is a salt not a protein. MSG has to be on the label if added as such but there of tons of things that contain glutamates Naturally the law should be changed to contains glutamates like is done for the other fsmily of salts namely sulfides~gd

The allergen causing agent in MSG IS a protein. Glutamate is a protein. Monosodium glutamte is what happens when that protein is broken down, but it's still a protein.

 

[ohiogoatgirl]

I will also note that you've pointed out that the items that seem to be a problem deal with powdered milk, not the actual real milk. If that is the case, then it is possible that its the processed issue, and may not have to do with the actual milk.

I have a story about milk, too. I've drank milk since I was a kid and love it. I also have pretty bad spring allergies to tree pollen. About 2 years ago we hired a new coworker, and since then she and I have become really close friends. Not long after she started working with us she mentioned that she wondered if I was actually dealing with a milk allergy not a pollen allergy. I blew it off for a long time, drinking about 8 oz of milk a day and eating a 'portion' of store bought yogurt. Finally, for some reason, I decided to give it a try, and stopped with pretty much all dairy for about a week. Instantly my prepetually runny nose cleared up. Just gone.

Shortly after that we found a source of raw dairy products. I found very quickly that raw dairy did not have the same affect on me that processed dairy does. I can drink raw dairy with virtually no problem, as long as I don't drink/eat too much several days in a row.

Experiment a bit, and see what happens. Best of luck.

which reminds me of something! my mom's biological father died when my mom was 19 <which ironically enough is how old i am now>. he had cancer. he had been very sturdy guy, very healthy. then he kinda snowballed downhill real quick. well one of the things he found out other then the cancer, was that he was lactose intolerent/milk allergy/??? <have to call and ask my mom, cant remember which it was>. and he drank over a gallon of milk a day.

which makes me wonder if this is possibly a genetic thing... i sure hope not with the things i already know of that are getting passed down in my family

 

[Wannabefree]

Oops you were right gd. Sorry. It is an amino acid the body uses to make proteins.

http://www.neurotransporter.org/glutamate.html

Glutamate is one of the ordinary 20 amino acids which are used to make proteins and takes parts in typical metabolic functions like energy production and ammonia detoxification in addition to protein synthesis. It was hard to believe that a compound with so many functions and which is present virtually everywhere in high concentrations could play an additional role as transmitter.


After all this time dealing with it I have no clue why I still get that confused

My apologies