Blackberries and blueberries.

Emerald

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Aug 23, 2010
Messages
882
Reaction score
3
Points
84
Location
Michigan
so lucky said:
One of my mom's favorite things to make for my dad was blackberry dumplings. She made them for me, too.:p Eating them while still hot was like sinking into heaven. She would strain the juice from the berries to get rid of the seeds, and drop home made dumplings into the boiling sweetened juice. You can probably imagine how good this is, served with a dollop of vanilla ice cream. Oh my!
I have way more red raspberries than anything else and now I want to try this!! it sounds yummy!
 

plantfreek

Sustainable Newbie
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Points
6
We grow 11 varieties of fruit here in south central Indiana, as organically as we can. Our raspberries and blackberries spread all over the place. You will have to learn which are the fruiting canes & which to pull if you don't already.
I'm very up set right now and found this forum to ask a question.
After 20+ yrs of growing tame blackberries very successfully-70+ gallons a year-we now have fruit fly worms in them. THey are disgusting. What can I do? I read where someone soaked theirs for 12 hours in salt water then switched out water and did it again for 12 hrs. Isn't that a bit long for delicate fruit? Any other ideas? I've washed them twice, saw a few in bottom of bucket and washed again. Thought I got them all but I made a canner full of pie filling last night and there they were. UGH.

ALso, how do I rid my bushes of them as organically as possible> Can I treat now while berries are ripening by picking and throwing away all ripe berries? I can give them to neighbor w/chickens. I need help.
Thanks in advance
Plantfreek in INdiana
 

plantfreek

Sustainable Newbie
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Points
6
Emerald said:
so lucky said:
One of my mom's favorite things to make for my dad was blackberry dumplings. She made them for me, too.:p Eating them while still hot was like sinking into heaven. She would strain the juice from the berries to get rid of the seeds, and drop home made dumplings into the boiling sweetened juice. You can probably imagine how good this is, served with a dollop of vanilla ice cream. Oh my!
I have way more red raspberries than anything else and now I want to try this!! it sounds yummy!
I do the same thing except I make a reduction of the juice till it's nice and thick. DELISH!
 

elaerstelle

Sustainable Newbie
Joined
Aug 26, 2013
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Points
7
is there any tips for planting them? i am also interested in it.
 

sleuth

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Jan 7, 2013
Messages
130
Reaction score
3
Points
50
Location
rural Ohio
I built 3 raised beds this spring, one each for blackberries, raspberries, and blueberries. Of the blackberries & raspberries, I can't remember which were thornless.

In the 6'x6' blackberry bed I planted 4 canes. Only 2 have survived and they are not doing all that well. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the amount of sunlight because they are partially shaded. I'm thinking of asking the neighbor if I can trim a couple branches (I planted them near the property line.)

In the 6'x5' raspberry bed, I planted 4 canes. All 4 canes survived and now I have 20+ raspberry plants.

In the 3'x6' blueberry bed, I planted 2 pink lemonade blueberry plants. They were small when they started and they grew some, but I wouldn't call them thriving. No berries this year at all.

We did not pick any berries this year, preferring to allow them to seed. The birds did enjoy them though.

I figure the raised bed keep the patch manageable, as I mow around all the beds weekly.

Is there anything I need to do to prep them for winter?
 

~gd

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
May 29, 2010
Messages
1,812
Reaction score
3
Points
99
sleuth said:
I built 3 raised beds this spring, one each for blackberries, raspberries, and blueberries. Of the blackberries & raspberries, I can't remember which were thornless.

In the 6'x6' blackberry bed I planted 4 canes. Only 2 have survived and they are not doing all that well. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the amount of sunlight because they are partially shaded. I'm thinking of asking the neighbor if I can trim a couple branches (I planted them near the property line.)

In the 6'x5' raspberry bed, I planted 4 canes. All 4 canes survived and now I have 20+ raspberry plants.

In the 3'x6' blueberry bed, I planted 2 pink lemonade blueberry plants. They were small when they started and they grew some, but I wouldn't call them thriving. No berries this year at all.

We did not pick any berries this year, preferring to allow them to seed. The birds did enjoy them though.

I figure the raised bed keep the patch manageable, as I mow around all the beds weekly.

Is there anything I need to do to prep them for winter?
Though blackberries and blueberry sound simple the fact is there are hundreds of natural hybrids and sometimes experts can not tell them apart In blacks there ate the trailing. semi-erect. and the erect[all can be trained to grow on wire. the trailers tend to suffer more from cold winters when up on wires but they don't need the sun like other types. In short it is hard to give any advice without knowing what you have. The same for blueberries. The fact that both will thrive in the willd is good. but did you get your plants locally or were they shipped in to you? btw most blue berries do better with a pollen parent of a different cultivar. Sorry thatIcan not be of more help.~gd
 

sleuth

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Jan 7, 2013
Messages
130
Reaction score
3
Points
50
Location
rural Ohio
~gd said:
Though blackberries and blueberry sound simple the fact is there are hundreds of natural hybrids and sometimes experts can not tell them apart In blacks there ate the trailing. semi-erect. and the erect[all can be trained to grow on wire. the trailers tend to suffer more from cold winters when up on wires but they don't need the sun like other types. In short it is hard to give any advice without knowing what you have. The same for blueberries. The fact that both will thrive in the willd is good. but did you get your plants locally or were they shipped in to you? btw most blue berries do better with a pollen parent of a different cultivar. Sorry thatIcan not be of more help.~gd
I purchased them and had them shipped from eBurgess.com and Jung. I went back and checked my orders, and they are as follows:

Black Satin Thornless Blackberry
Pink Lemonade Blueberry
Latham Summer Bearing Raspberry
 

Britesea

Sustainability Master
Joined
Jul 22, 2011
Messages
5,676
Reaction score
5,733
Points
373
Location
Klamath County, OR
plantfreek said:
We grow 11 varieties of fruit here in south central Indiana, as organically as we can. Our raspberries and blackberries spread all over the place. You will have to learn which are the fruiting canes & which to pull if you don't already.
I'm very up set right now and found this forum to ask a question.
After 20+ yrs of growing tame blackberries very successfully-70+ gallons a year-we now have fruit fly worms in them. THey are disgusting. What can I do? I read where someone soaked theirs for 12 hours in salt water then switched out water and did it again for 12 hrs. Isn't that a bit long for delicate fruit? Any other ideas? I've washed them twice, saw a few in bottom of bucket and washed again. Thought I got them all but I made a canner full of pie filling last night and there they were. UGH.

ALso, how do I rid my bushes of them as organically as possible> Can I treat now while berries are ripening by picking and throwing away all ripe berries? I can give them to neighbor w/chickens. I need help.
Thanks in advance
Plantfreek in INdiana
Is this the Asian fruit fly (spotted wing drosophila) that has recently made it's way to the East Coast? It's been a pest in CA for a while. I read that organic pesticides with Spinosad work well. Also you might need to prune the center of your plants more heavily to allow more light and air. One farmer suggested using vinegar baited traps around the vines.
 

cd2675

Sustainable Newbie
Joined
Oct 23, 2013
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Points
6
I have some questions regarding blueberries, raspberries and blackberries. I am new to all of this and am just trying to learn.

First, if they are in a raised bed, to the bramble plants still spread like crazy?
Could they be planted in a large pot to help avoid this?

Secondly, it sounds like blueberries would do just fine potted and only spread from seeds dropped by birds?

Thirdly, how do you protect all of these plants from birds?

Thanks for taking the time.
 
Top