Grain free cats, equals shed free!

glenolam

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Wifezilla said:
the cats eat AND poop less than on crappy food.
Well, if THAT'S the case, count me in! I'm sick and tired of cleaning up a litter box every few days.

Not to mention how much it stinks when one of them drops a serious deuce.
 

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:yuckyuck :gig

My kitty is on a grain free diet too. He is trained like a dog though and only does his biz outside. No litter box since 1996!!!!! :clap

Dirk, too funny!!!
 

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yall might want to look into raw feeding your kitties too...

grain free is great...
kibble free is even better.

right now tempi (and eventually peanut/cinder (im thinking of going with peanut lol)) is on a combination of TOTW dry food free choice and wet food a couple of times a day with the occasional (about once a week) of raw (usually quail)

once i get my own place and can afford a chest freezer to dedicate to the critters, theyll all be switching to 100% raw prey model.

i saw a huge difference switching them all onto better foods and thought it was amazing... then i started adding in the occasinonal raw meals and the difference is even more drastic...
full time raw is a little more work (and cats can be finnicy about it) but, especially when you can grow it yourself...raw is alot cheaper than the pre maid grain free lol
 

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My brother gets salmon and moose that people throw out just because it's a year old, and saves it for his cats and the dog. Unless the source seems questionable he feeds it raw and they love it. :) They are all excellent mouse/vole/squirrel and bird catchers too.
 

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Carnivores do eat grain. They eat the stomach of their prey, like birds and rodents and end up with partially digested grains. So the trick is to give them partially digested grains. I soak them in whey or use sourdough sometimes. But mostly my cats and dog steal their grains from the chickens... :p
Sometimes they get leftovers from our meals, but not much, since we usually feed that kind of stuff to the chickens.

Our cats and dog are on TOTW. plus homemade for them foods.
 

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So far my cats won't touch the homemade or raw foods LOL.

Amira will eat raw fish, so any time I make fish, I set her aside some.
 

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FarmerDenise said:
Carnivores do eat grain. They eat the stomach of their prey, like birds and rodents and end up with partially digested grains. So the trick is to give them partially digested grains.
So... I should partially digest my grains for my kitties? >.>

:lol:

I knew what you meant but my brain stopped there.
 

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No worries Abi, when I first read the title I was wondering how BB got a free shed from free cats and grain :/ Apparently you aren't the only one whose brain stops sometimes :p

Nice job BB. I can't have cats, DH is severely allergic. Not that I would want them anyway...they don't listen to anything, that's all I need is more teenager type attitude around here to put me over the edge :lol:
 

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Carnivores do eat grain. They eat the stomach of their prey
No...they shake the contents out and eat the tissue, NOT the partially digested grains.

"Myth: WOLVES INGEST THE STOMACH CONTENTS OF THEIR PREY.

This claim is repeated over and over as evidence that wolves and therefore dogs are omnivores. However, this assumption is just that--an assumption. It is not supported by the evidence available to us, and is therefore false!

Wolves do NOT eat the stomach contents of their prey. Only if the prey is small enough (like the size of a rabbit) will they eat the stomach contents, which just happen to get consumed along with the entire animal. Otherwise, wolves will shake out the stomach contents of their large herbivorous prey before sometimes eating the stomach wall. The following quotations are taken from L. David Mech's 2003 book Wolves: Behavior, Ecology, and Conservation. Mech (and the others who contributed to this book) is considered the world's leading wolf biologist, and this book is a compilation of 350 collective years of research, experiments, and careful field observations. These quotes are taken from chapter 4, The Wolf as a Carnivore.

"Wolves usually tear into the body cavity of large prey and...consume the larger internal organs, such as lungs, heart, and liver. The large rumen [, which is one of the main stomach chambers in large ruminant herbivores,]...is usually punctured during removal and its contents spilled. The vegetation in the intestinal tract is of no interest to the wolves, but the stomach lining and intestinal wall are consumed, and their contents further strewn about the kill site." (pg.123, emphasis added)

"To grow and maintain their own bodies, wolves need to ingest all the major parts of their herbivorous prey, except the plants in the digestive system." (pg.124, emphasis added).

This next quote can be found on the Hunting and Meals page at Kerwood Wildlife Education Center.

"The wolf's diet consists mostly of muscle meat and fatty tissue from various animals. Heart, lung, liver, and other internal organs are eaten. Bones are crushed to get at the marrow, and bone fragments are eaten as well. Even hair and skin are sometimes consumed. The only part consistently ignored is the stomach and its contents. Although some vegetable matter is taken separately, particularly berries, Canis lupus doesn't seem to digest them very well."

From the mouths of the wolf experts themselves, who have observed countless numbers of kills: wolves do NOT eat the stomach contents of their large prey, and are carnivorous animals. Additionally, Neville Buck from the Howletts and Port Lympne Zoological Parks in Kent, England, notes that virtually no small carnivore (which includes varieties of cats, wolves, wild dogs) eat the intestinal contents of their large prey. The contents are spilled in the enclosures and are often rolled in by the animals, but very little is eaten (if any is eaten at all). His observations can be found in Appendix B of Raw Meaty Bones."
http://www.rawfed.com/myths/stomachcontents.html

If you want to feed your dog or cat grains, your choice. Just don't base that decision on a myth.
 

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