My friend, a physician, has been known to ask her patients just why they spend so much money just to ignore her advice. We all "know" the things we do that are unhealthy, but few of us are willing to change. Or perhaps we change one thing, and think that gives us a free pass on the others - "I don't smoke, therefore it doesn't matter that I weigh more than I should". Its human nature.FarmerChick said:I am right near 50 and have a 5 year old
there is no way I would choose not to have insurance
I will always do what I have to do to have coverage of some kind
doctors do make people healthier
It is the patient that fails to create health before they have some bad problems from diet and lifestyle.....don't be putting the "blame" on the medical profession. Most people know that diet and lifestyle choices are culprits, they are just too lazy to change them. How many times does a doctor say to a patient, lose weight, stop this and that, and that patient does not? MANY millions of times!
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Wrong. Sorry.
Everything I was told to help me lose weight, lower my blood pressure and be healthier made me fatter and sicker. I was LIED TO for 30 years. More exercise, whole grains, cutting fat, less meat. I did it all and it made me worse and worse. Only when I ventured out on my own, did the research and saw where the lies began did I get better.
Comments like that are just blaming the victim.
The beast of mandatory corporate insurance is loose now. Good luck to us all since the insurance industry is now standing between us and actual health care, thanks to our government for caving in to the industry special interests. 
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there aren't any victims in my bookWifezilla said:Wrong. Sorry.
Everything I was told to help me lose weight, lower my blood pressure and be healthier made me fatter and sicker. I was LIED TO for 30 years. More exercise, whole grains, cutting fat, less meat. I did it all and it made me worse and worse. Only when I ventured out on my own, did the research and saw where the lies began did I get better.
Comments like that are just blaming the victim.
there is alot of info out there about what to eat and what not to eat ETC ETC---but truly in the end the person must evaluate thru the tons of info out there and figure out what works for them.
now that is the more in depth stuff
but on the surface---how many of those who can't lose weight have constant drive thrus with McDonalds, never bring a healthier type bagged lunch to work---hit take out for dinner.....wouldn't walk to the mailbox to get their mail, just roll down the window driving into the driveway and grab it
BASIC and I mean basic healthy eating is known by all. Who are we kidding---these "victims" are not fooling me one bit
get out and take a walk---eat a friggin' carrot instead of a donut
these are very basic changes some people will not even try to make
anyone, and I mean everyone, can get a bit more healthy....it is not rocket science at all....it is eating more veggies and maybe taking a stroll vs. bag of chips and tv
I agree. The dems should have stuck to their guns and done it right. Instead they caved in and gave the insurance companies a bunch of extra high profit business. Health care shouldn't be a for profit venture. The only thing they accomplished was making a negative spectacle out of themselves. Now we're going to have to put up with the same stuff we had between 2000-2008.valmom said:The beast of mandatory corporate insurance is loose now. Good luck to us all since the insurance industry is now standing between us and actual health care, thanks to our government for caving in to the industry special interests.
What a mess
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Yes. There are. I was one of them. I didn't eat donuts. I exercised an hour a day 6 days a week. I kept getting fatter and sicker. I cut calories and weighed and measured all my food. I gained weight. The info I was getting was not just inaccurate, it was an outright LIE!
I WAS LIED TO ABOUT WHAT MAKES A PERSON FAT. The entire American Public was lied to.
Sure, some irresponsible people do damage themselves. That is not the majority of fat people I know. It's not what I see happening to my friends. It's not what happened to me. But hey, if it makes you feel better looking down on others because they are fat....go for it.
http://nymag.com/news/sports/38001/
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html
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"Big Food claims that the problem is one of personal responsibility-- that processed foods can be part of a healthy diet as long as they are eaten in moderation. But the more we delve into the research on food marketing practices, the impact of food deserts where healthy foods simply can't be found, and the biologically addictive properties of these overly available cheap, high-calorie, nutrient poor junk/processed foods, the clearer it becomes that environmental factors override our normal physical and psychological mechanisms that control weight.
As I explained in my recent blog on food addiction, it is not a failing of personal responsibility, moral fiber, or will power that drives people to over consume these unhealthy foods. Industrial, processed food has been found to be addictive. We are like rats in a cage with unrestricted access to processed sugar and fat. When given a choice between cocaine and sugar, rats always choose sugar. So do we.
Poverty and food scarcity also drive poor food choices and are linked to obesity, and diabetes. The poverty rate in 2009 was 14.3 percent, the highest since 1994. As I pointed out in my article "Not Having Enough Food Causes Diabetes" there is a correlation between the poverty rate and the obesity rate. The poorest states in the nation are the fattest."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/the-toxic-triad-how-big-f_b_772729.html
As I explained in my recent blog on food addiction, it is not a failing of personal responsibility, moral fiber, or will power that drives people to over consume these unhealthy foods. Industrial, processed food has been found to be addictive. We are like rats in a cage with unrestricted access to processed sugar and fat. When given a choice between cocaine and sugar, rats always choose sugar. So do we.
Poverty and food scarcity also drive poor food choices and are linked to obesity, and diabetes. The poverty rate in 2009 was 14.3 percent, the highest since 1994. As I pointed out in my article "Not Having Enough Food Causes Diabetes" there is a correlation between the poverty rate and the obesity rate. The poorest states in the nation are the fattest."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/the-toxic-triad-how-big-f_b_772729.html
I agree 100%. Processed foods are the reason why there are so many obese people. Remember "Bet you can't eat just one"? It really was hard to eat just one Lays potato chip. All the fast food makes you want to just stuff your face till you feel like throwing up. Yes those carb cravings are hard to resist.
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I sure don't look down on people whose weight is not under control for many reasons.....but that victim crap is just that--crap
people make themselves victims
everyone's metabolism is different and some have exceptional problems like you mentioned...and must search for answers beyond the basics, --but the majority....elbow benders and lazy attitudes towards taking responsibility for ones own health
for many it is just putting down the donut and taking a walk
(an addict can beat addictions, it is done all the time, including food addictions....yes I agree some is chemically addictive, but so is "other chemical" addictions----yes we must all eat better...and take our own responsibility to do so)
I don't "blame" the system for putting foods on the market, I sure do not have to buy them!
people make themselves victims
everyone's metabolism is different and some have exceptional problems like you mentioned...and must search for answers beyond the basics, --but the majority....elbow benders and lazy attitudes towards taking responsibility for ones own health
for many it is just putting down the donut and taking a walk
(an addict can beat addictions, it is done all the time, including food addictions....yes I agree some is chemically addictive, but so is "other chemical" addictions----yes we must all eat better...and take our own responsibility to do so)
I don't "blame" the system for putting foods on the market, I sure do not have to buy them!
The fact is that only 5% of people that have a significant weight loss keep that weight off for 5 years. 95% gain it back within 5 years plus some additional.
Overweight people are overweight for a number of reasons. Lot's of them eat from depression, stress, anxiety. Eating a carrot doesn't satisfy the need like a cookie or some other carb item. Lots of times their eating habits are learned at a very early age.
Unfortunately obese kids usually have obese parents and the cycle continues.
One of the best things a parent can do is teach their kids good eating habits. Even kids that are skinny when young will get fat once they reach 40 or so if they have bad eating habits. I've known a lot of people that I envied when they were young because they could eat like pigs and stayed skinny. Those same people now have paunches and some are just outright big. The ole metabolism is a real stinker.
Wifezilla posted an article about exercise sabotaging weight loss because it makes you hungry. I agree it does make you hungry. It also relieves stress and anxiety. When I get done exercising I usually have an endorphin release that keeps me happy for a while. Wish they could put that in a pill. I drink a protein shake when I get done exercising. It fills me up and stops that urge to eat. Low calorie and high in protein to replace what I just used.
It all comes down to eating to live vs living to eat. When you are obese it is VERY difficult to break that cycle.
Overweight people are overweight for a number of reasons. Lot's of them eat from depression, stress, anxiety. Eating a carrot doesn't satisfy the need like a cookie or some other carb item. Lots of times their eating habits are learned at a very early age.
Unfortunately obese kids usually have obese parents and the cycle continues.
One of the best things a parent can do is teach their kids good eating habits. Even kids that are skinny when young will get fat once they reach 40 or so if they have bad eating habits. I've known a lot of people that I envied when they were young because they could eat like pigs and stayed skinny. Those same people now have paunches and some are just outright big. The ole metabolism is a real stinker.
Wifezilla posted an article about exercise sabotaging weight loss because it makes you hungry. I agree it does make you hungry. It also relieves stress and anxiety. When I get done exercising I usually have an endorphin release that keeps me happy for a while. Wish they could put that in a pill. I drink a protein shake when I get done exercising. It fills me up and stops that urge to eat. Low calorie and high in protein to replace what I just used.
It all comes down to eating to live vs living to eat. When you are obese it is VERY difficult to break that cycle.
