How do a person's political views relate to self sufficiency?

[hikerchick]

hikerchick.....In your own words:

don't argue just to argue.

Best not to take the bait.

That's good advice!

Maybe you should use your own advice?

And maybe you should just answer the question.

Everyone is curious to hear what you have to say. I am not arguing to argue. I am asking you your view on the original topic. You have been more than generous in sharing your views on everything other than the original topic.

 

[dragonlaurel]

. . .
However; I have not seen anything like what we have today and it does scare me.

If we loose control of the government and they turn to tyranny, we could find ourselves in a very unpleasant place as the government would have to use stronger force on Liberty loving Americans than other governments needed to use on their people who were less used to freedoms than we are!!!! just my two cents worth!!

- This is true and scary. People from countries that aren't used to much freedom are easier to subdue.
If the govt. is overthrown here or the constitution gets suspended - the groups in charge would probably come down hard and fast on the people. they would want to scare the people into submission and would probably get really nasty.

Anybody that isn't happy with our govt. needs to think very carefully about how bad things could get.

 

[ScottSD]

hikerchick.....In your own words:

don't argue just to argue.

Best not to take the bait.

That's good advice!

Maybe you should use your own advice?

And maybe you should just answer the question.

Everyone is curious to hear what you have to say. I am not arguing to argue. I am asking you your view on the original topic. You have been more than generous in sharing your views on everything other than the original topic.

Like I said......All you have to do is read. My opinion on the subject has been given.

And, I notice you had a comment about my use of your "arguing not to argue" post...but no comment on the use your "Best not to take the bait" post......?

your bait is not that irresistible.

 

[hikerchick]

Whatever, Scott. Have a ball playing your semantic games without ever actually communicating.

You are very clever. I hope that works out for you.

 

[patandchickens]

Look, Scott, we can certainly see what it SOUNDS like you think, only because of what you're arguing against.

But we also know that you will claim we're reading things into it, that you never used those words, never said "prohibit", etc etc etc. And who knows, maybe that's true.

The bottom line is that clearly many people here do not *feel* you've answered the question this thread is about, just stood around making inflammatory comments.

So it would be nice if you would be straight-up about it and just SAY whether or not you think that some political views are incompatible with an interest in self-sufficient practices as the term is being used on this forum.

Yes or no?

I realize it requires a bit more character to take an explicit stance rather than just poke sticks at OTHER peoples' explicit stances... but, it would certainly help clear the air.

(edited for clarity)

Pat

 

[dacjohns]

Just kind of curious Scott.

You've been a member since November 4, 2009, just over a month.

You have 72 posts as of this moment.


How many posts are in non political threads?

 

[ScottSD]

And now the attack machine starts?

Attacking my character P&C?

I stated my opinion on this subject in my first post.

Of course, it is not an opinion you agree with, so, of course you want a different answer then a different answer then a different answer then a different until it agrees with your opinion.

The original question: "How do a person's political views relate to self sufficiency?"

My opinion as offered in my first post:
"I also cannot wrap my head around how someone can say they want to be self sufficient, but still support programs that diminish the great American desire of being self sufficient by providing for you through social programs."

Note also that I said "Again, this is my opinion and I respect yours. "

Apparently you do not respect other opinion unless it agrees with yours. If it doesn't, you will hound that person until they cave.

Then, later I was being accused of saying things I DID NOT SAY: "do you still believe that a certain political view prohibits a person.... "

Now you DEMAND I answer a question of yours?

That's rich!

Then later, I display the definitions of the various political views.......and ask which one of them closest relates to self sufficiency. It is quite obvious which one does.

No answer there....big surprise.....

Yet again.....a request for my answer (which was quite easily given in my definitions post) for the question of this thread.


And yet you want my answer AGAIN?

I am beginning to think that the original purpose of this thread was "bait".....

 

[me&thegals]

Your response is so predictable. I knew you were going to yell "attacked" when people held your feet to the flames. Scott, you have danced around this whole issue the entire thread, unwilling to be held to an actual view yet obviously having negative opinions.

You are not being "attacked" because people disagree with you. You just have people annoyed with your unwillingness to be straightforward on anything you say, picking fights and just in general not wanting to have a conversation but instead a fight.

As for dajohn's post, there have been other people who joined SS and never posted anything helpful in the SS threads, just had fun arguing in the political ones. I think you are free to do this (I guess Nifty would know better), but it's not really that helpful to anybody on the forum.

 

[dacjohns]

It has become clear to me that all of my education has been wasted. I cannot understand some of the "answers".

 

[patandchickens]

The original question: "How do a person's political views relate to self sufficiency?"

My opinion as offered in my first post:
"I also cannot wrap my head around how someone can say they want to be self sufficient, but still support programs that diminish the great American desire of being self sufficient by providing for you through social programs."

Is that a 'I think some political positions are incompatible with self sufficiency'?

Or is that an 'I don't understand *how* some political positions are compatible with it, but perhaps they are anyhow'?

Your words say the latter... but your posts seem to indicate the former.

Hence the confusion.

(e.t.a. - You genuinely have NOT been as clear as you seem to think; so saying 'see my previous posts' does not help.)

What makes you call it a demand? It is a question. You like questions, you ask enough of them yourself


Pat