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Someone pulled up one of my old posts, and reminded me that I've never really discussed my fish/garden system.

First, this is a trigger warning. If you're an aquaponics or hydroponics purist, for the sake of your blood pressure you might want to sign off now.

My system is 4 linked IBC totes in an enclosed garage. A pump takes water from the lowest tank to the highest, and from there everything is gravity feed. It is currently home to a couple hundred minnows and a few goldfish, which keep the algae under control. They spend most of their time at the bottom of the tanks, which tells me that the gravity "fountains" are aerating the water just fine.

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I feed them maybe a couple tablespoons of a high protein chicken feed every week. During the summer they eat mosquito larvae and other aquatic insects. They didn't like hard boiled eggs, but they ate the duckweed and the algae to extinction.

Over the winter the tanks freeze pretty solid, but the fish don't seem to mind. The highest casualties come at breakup, when they sometimes flop out onto the ice and get stranded, or get caught between heaving ice flows.

There is no filter. I don’t check PH or temperature, I make no attempt to interfere with the ecosystem at all. The only adjustments I make is to feed them and to add extra water when necessary.

I do note that when I add water (water catchment from the roof) they tend to be surface breathers for a while.

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I have been trying to decide on a suitable food fish to add to the system for almost four years. It has to be hardy, breed under my conditions, and able to handle freezing.

I had intended this to be a garden as well, but at best it gets only 6 hours of light so I'm rather limited on what I can grow. Apparently there's not sufficient fish in the balanced ecosystem to truly support a plant population, and I'm afraid that increasing densities to the point that plants can thrive would kill the fish.

I'm working on it. Part of the problem is the rafts sinking under the weight of the plants and fully submerging the root zone. Another has been the rafts actually dumping over when the plant sizes get unbalanced. More fish food, I suppose, but irritating.

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I have a repurposed solar panel that might be able to support more lights, but I hesitate to move away from the self-contained setup. I even winced at the necessity of the pump, but I got used to it. :)

The garden piece is much harder to work with. The fish just settled in and started breeding with no problems. Apparently they like their new home.

I'm still working on the plants. Whatever I do has to avoid messing with the relatively balanced fish ecosystem. It's a slow process of trying different things until I find something that works.
 

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Someone pulled up one of my old posts, and reminded me that I've never really discussed my fish/garden system.

First, this is a trigger warning. If you're an aquaponics or hydroponics purist, for the sake of your blood pressure you might want to sign off now.

My system is 4 linked IBC totes in an enclosed garage. A pump takes water from the lowest tank to the highest, and from there everything is gravity feed. It is currently home to a couple hundred minnows and a few goldfish, which keep the algae under control. They spend most of their time at the bottom of the tanks, which tells me that the gravity "fountains" are aerating the water just fine.

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I feed them maybe a couple tablespoons of a high protein chicken feed every week. During the summer they eat mosquito larvae and other aquatic insects. They didn't like hard boiled eggs, but they ate the duckweed and the algae to extinction.

Over the winter the tanks freeze pretty solid, but the fish don't seem to mind. The highest casualties come at breakup, when they sometimes flop out onto the ice and get stranded, or get caught between heaving ice flows.

There is no filter. I don’t check PH or temperature, I make no attempt to interfere with the ecosystem at all. The only adjustments I make is to feed them and to add extra water when necessary.

I do note that when I add water (water catchment from the roof) they tend to be surface breathers for a while.

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I have been trying to decide on a suitable food fish to add to the system for almost four years. It has to be hardy, breed under my conditions, and able to handle freezing.

I had intended this to be a garden as well, but at best it gets only 6 hours of light so I'm rather limited on what I can grow. Apparently there's not sufficient fish in the balanced ecosystem to truly support a plant population, and I'm afraid that increasing densities to the point that plants can thrive would kill the fish.

I'm working on it. Part of the problem is the rafts sinking under the weight of the plants and fully submerging the root zone. Another has been the rafts actually dumping over when the plant sizes get unbalanced. More fish food, I suppose, but irritating.

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I have a repurposed solar panel that might be able to support more lights, but I hesitate to move away from the self-contained setup. I even winced at the necessity of the pump, but I got used to it. :)

The garden piece is much harder to work with. The fish just settled in and started breeding with no problems. Apparently they like their new home.

I'm still working on the plants. Whatever I do has to avoid messing with the relatively balanced fish ecosystem. It's a slow process of trying different things until I find something that works.
Hmm I want to do it for the sake of having a fish crop, so minnows and goldfish wouldn't work for me. If you had some lettuce type greens growing in there it might be able to handle more/bigger fish? I imagine the nitrogen load would get to heavy right now. They also don't need much light and stay fairly low/centered and light, but are nitrogen hungry.
For the food source, I was thinking of adding grass shrimp. They are native to colder regions and can freeze and be ok, much like carp. If there is enough logs/rocks for them to hide in they would help keep it clean while also providing a food source. I was planning on keeping a breeding population in a small attached tank though, so they couldnt be eaten out, perhaps you could donate 1 tank to them and then let them do the final cleanup on your water before it moved on. I would probably retry the duckweed with it in the shrimp tank too. If you could get enough of it to start with, and have the shrimp as a food source too, it might survive. Just an idea, im fairly new to even the idea of all this, I'm just a biology Nerd. 🙃
 
Lots of possibilities. I originally had the fish in only one tank, but the fry are so tiny they go right through the pump filter. So they ended up in all four tanks, every one of them descended from a dozen fish from a pet store. :)

I can think of ways to protect the duckweed (I still have some in a separate outdoor tank) but only if they stop spawning.

Not likely. :lau

I wanted to get the system established and stable before I introduced larger fish. The minnows were originally there to deal with an out of control algae bloom. It just so happens that the microscopic algae is what the fry need, so I had unwittingly created the perfect environment for breeding minnows.

The other types of fish, including catfish, didn't survive the first winter. I've looked at a bunch of different types of fish. At one point I thought the minnows might be food for more predatory or omnivorous fish.

That's still a possibility, but the problems I've been having with the garden piece have rather pushed development of the fish population to the background.
 
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