Lazy Gardener
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If I'm gonna eat it, it must die a quick and merciful death. That was shameful. Even fish: deserve a quick death. I hate it when people catch fish, then let them flop around until they suffocate.
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JanetMarie
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I agree 100%.
baymule
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What a cool thing! You are a turtle egg babysitter!
farmerjan
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I know that snapping turtles have a place. But that said, when I was a kid we would go out in the boat on my grandmother's pond and the snapping turtles were as big as a wash tub and they devoured all the baby ducks that the mallards would hatch. They were destructive on the banks of the pond/lake... we called it a pond but it was about 4 acres in size. There were lots of painted turtles and some spotted ones although they were on the decline then. Also some mud turtles... We fished for sun fish (sunnies) and they would make their nests along the shallow parts of the shore... there were bass and pickerel in there too and when we were kids we also ice fished on the lake. Haven't had cold enough cold winters to freeze it safely in years.
There was a gourmet restaurant across the road, and one of the chef's had made turtle soup in his past. We caught one of the big turtles (dad helped as it could have taken off our hand/fingers) and they kept it in a big tub in clean water and changed it daily, feeding lettuce and other stuff, until the "muddiness" was cleaned out from his flesh... then they killed it and he cooked it.... I never got to try it though.
We would kill the snapping turtles because they were so destructive and there were so many in the lake. It was not safe to swim in the lake because there were so many. They also worked on the fish populations.
I have no use for them, but then I have no use for raccoons with all the destructive damage they have done to the chickens over the years. I never bothered much about the raccoons until they learned how to open hooks and eyes on the chickens and maimed and killed a pen full of young purebred show birds we were raising. It was heartbreaking to find half grown chicks with legs and wings torn off or mangled .... and not eaten. I don't begrudge an occasional meal, but they are destructive. Especially when I am doing my best to protect the chickens from marauders.
We used to encourage the painted turtles and such and set aside a part of the one cove for not disturbing the turtles and left some of the one tree that fell in there so they had places to come out and sun themselves and places to hide in the water and branches underneath.
Memories of youth.... had a box turtle that used to come and lay eggs at a friends house every year... saw a few of the little ones after they hatched... they were SOOOO little. Seldom ever see a young one, and I try my darndest to stop and move them off the road so they don't get squished....
There was a gourmet restaurant across the road, and one of the chef's had made turtle soup in his past. We caught one of the big turtles (dad helped as it could have taken off our hand/fingers) and they kept it in a big tub in clean water and changed it daily, feeding lettuce and other stuff, until the "muddiness" was cleaned out from his flesh... then they killed it and he cooked it.... I never got to try it though.
We would kill the snapping turtles because they were so destructive and there were so many in the lake. It was not safe to swim in the lake because there were so many. They also worked on the fish populations.
I have no use for them, but then I have no use for raccoons with all the destructive damage they have done to the chickens over the years. I never bothered much about the raccoons until they learned how to open hooks and eyes on the chickens and maimed and killed a pen full of young purebred show birds we were raising. It was heartbreaking to find half grown chicks with legs and wings torn off or mangled .... and not eaten. I don't begrudge an occasional meal, but they are destructive. Especially when I am doing my best to protect the chickens from marauders.
We used to encourage the painted turtles and such and set aside a part of the one cove for not disturbing the turtles and left some of the one tree that fell in there so they had places to come out and sun themselves and places to hide in the water and branches underneath.
Memories of youth.... had a box turtle that used to come and lay eggs at a friends house every year... saw a few of the little ones after they hatched... they were SOOOO little. Seldom ever see a young one, and I try my darndest to stop and move them off the road so they don't get squished....
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JanetMarie
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When we looked at this house and property 11 years ago, the current homeowner(s) wanted a new homeowner who would be a turtle egg sitter. They said a Snapping Turtle comes up from the marsh every year to lay eggs, and the homeowner wife would find the nest and put a fence around them.
I haven't found a turtle nest around here, and the one who was here the other day, it doesn't look like there are eggs under the sand where she was. I've seen two baby Snappers around, so there must be turtle nests somewhere and doing well hatching.
flowerbug
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i didn't hear about that one.
i'm in Michigan, i'll rescue turtles crossing the road if i can. big snapping turtles aren't common here as it is farmland all around us. the ponds that exist in this area are all man-made. this county is the only one in Michigan that doesn't have a natural lake.- Thread starter
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JanetMarie
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I believe it was only on local news. I didn't know there was a county in Michigan without any natural lakes!i didn't hear about that one.
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JanetMarie
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We added two suet feeders to the bird feeding area. Birds that visit the suet cakes are: Northern Flickers, Nuthatches, Chickadees, Downy woodpeckers, and probably some others.
Now, new invaders are blackbirds! They're keeping everyone else away from all of the feeders. When I'm outside the other birds come around some. The Goldfinches haven't been coming at all. There was a Downy woodpecker mom with her young one who would come to the suet cakes, but are not as much. They are pictured below.
It may be a good thing though, because I was concerned that the young Downy may only learn to eat at the suet feeders. Hopefully now the mom and young one are going up and down tree trunks hunting, so the young one can learn while it can. I'll let the blackbirds be there for now, but I won't feed them for the long term.
The suet cakes contain corn, which may be the draw for the blackbirds. I think it's the peanut pieces that the other birds like in the cakes, and not the corn. I would like to purchase suet cakes without corn, but I don't think there are any. Corn is really just a cheap filler. So, I'm going to make some suet cakes without corn, and see if that helps with not being a draw for the blackbirds.
Now, new invaders are blackbirds! They're keeping everyone else away from all of the feeders. When I'm outside the other birds come around some. The Goldfinches haven't been coming at all. There was a Downy woodpecker mom with her young one who would come to the suet cakes, but are not as much. They are pictured below.
It may be a good thing though, because I was concerned that the young Downy may only learn to eat at the suet feeders. Hopefully now the mom and young one are going up and down tree trunks hunting, so the young one can learn while it can. I'll let the blackbirds be there for now, but I won't feed them for the long term.
The suet cakes contain corn, which may be the draw for the blackbirds. I think it's the peanut pieces that the other birds like in the cakes, and not the corn. I would like to purchase suet cakes without corn, but I don't think there are any. Corn is really just a cheap filler. So, I'm going to make some suet cakes without corn, and see if that helps with not being a draw for the blackbirds.
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flowerbug
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we don't feed any birds here that often at all. mostly what we do is have bird baths which do attract them and then they have to forage for bugs and seeds here. never issues with them going for plant seeds or tomatoes. now if we could get them to eat the squash borers, tomato worms and japanese beetles we'd be all set.
flowerbug
Super Self-Sufficient
i have tried to train the birds to eat the japanese beetles by killing them and then leaving them out where the birds can see them. not sure it has worked or not... will keep trying.
