Pantry Moths

mandieg4

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
301
Reaction score
0
Points
74
Location
Middle Georgia
:barnie :barnie :barnie :barnie

My house has been invaded. At first we didn't realize what they were, I've lived in the South for 12 years and have never had a problem with bugs in my food. I didn't see any moths in the pantry or in the spare room where we keep a lot of our dry goods. The only place we saw them were on the wall behind the tv and the ceiling above the tv. We figured they were the same bugs that harass our porch light every night. I've had a rough couple months, health wise, and haven't really been cooking a lot so I wasn't in the pantry enough to realize that the invasion had begun. They are everywhere!! I have noodles that I had put in ziplock bags and then put into a tote with a tight lid that the moths still got into. Pretty much anything that wasn't in a can or a jar is ruined. I am so frustrated! Thank goodness we have pigs and I don't have to throw it all in the trash. I guess I need to quit being a cheap skate and buy some good buckets and gamma lids rather than keeping my dry goods in clear totes.
 

lwheelr

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Nov 11, 2010
Messages
569
Reaction score
0
Points
79
Location
Texas Hill Country
If they are brownish gray moths, about an inch long, they are probably Miller moths. We had them everywhere in Wyoming, especially in the late summer/fall. I hate to tell you this, but the moth season is really only just begun.

If you have ducks or chickens, see if you can collect some of them up for them. They'll be a great source of protein for poultry.
 

TanksHill

Super Self-Sufficient
Joined
Sep 12, 2008
Messages
8,192
Reaction score
15
Points
272
Location
NOT Southern, Ca. :)
When stocking next time try to freeze your grains/ flours etc. for a couple days before you package them up.. I try to do this with anything new I bring in.

sorry for your problem. Just wondering, is the food really ruined or just gross because of the moths?

g
 

moolie

Almost Self-Reliant
Joined
Sep 23, 2009
Messages
2,741
Reaction score
14
Points
188
It's more likely that the eggs were in the food you bought, than that they got in through the ziploc bags and plastic containers. Definitely a good idea to freeze any dry food you buy going forward :)
 

miss_thenorth

Frugal Homesteader
Joined
Jul 12, 2008
Messages
4,668
Reaction score
8
Points
220
Location
SW Ontario, CANADA
I have them too, and for the life of me, I can't figure out where they are coming from. I have searched everywhere,a nd went through everything.
 

mandieg4

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
301
Reaction score
0
Points
74
Location
Middle Georgia
TanksHill said:
When stocking next time try to freeze your grains/ flours etc. for a couple days before you package them up.. I try to do this with anything new I bring in.

sorry for your problem. Just wondering, is the food really ruined or just gross because of the moths?

g
For a couple weeks I was actually using some of the stuff as long as it was just webs and not actual worms, until it dawned on me that I needed to get rid of everything that was infested if I ever wanted to get rid of the problem.

The problem with freezing stuff is that I simply don't have the freezer space. If it was just a box at a time it would be one thing, but we're talking 25# or more all at once. I thought I might pack everything in 5 gal buckets instead of totes and put a piece of dry ice in the bottom and on the top when I fill the bucket. That might work, maybe? The only problem with that would be finding someplace around here that sells dry ice.
 

ORChick

Almost Self-Reliant
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
2,525
Reaction score
3
Points
195
If you have a bit of spare room in the freezer - say, 5# worth - you can freeze your food in batches. You'll want to freeze it all of course, but each lot only needs 3 or 4 days, and it won't go bad waiting for that period of time. Just don't mix the already frozen with the not yet frozen ;). Dry ice would also work, or oxygen absorbers. There is a supermarket here in town that has dry ice; I'm not sure why, but have seen the sign. Emergency manuals usually suggest looking in the yellow pages for meat packers for dry ice.
 

~gd

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
May 29, 2010
Messages
1,812
Reaction score
3
Points
99
ORChick said:
If you have a bit of spare room in the freezer - say, 5# worth - you can freeze your food in batches. You'll want to freeze it all of course, but each lot only needs 3 or 4 days, and it won't go bad waiting for that period of time. Just don't mix the already frozen with the not yet frozen ;). Dry ice would also work, or oxygen absorbers. There is a supermarket here in town that has dry ice; I'm not sure why, but have seen the sign. Emergency manuals usually suggest looking in the yellow pages for meat packers for dry ice.
Unless you have a medical lab in town dry ice is often used to flash freeze lab samples. After they are frozen they are then shipped with cold Packs (frozen to dry ice temperature) They are NOT shipped with dry ice since it off gasses huge amounts of CO2 and NO ONE will accept it for shipment! If you are buying it remember that you need oven mit like gloves to handle it. I know everybody here hates styrofoam but a thick walled styrofoam cooler or a card board box lined on all surfaces with sheet foam works better than plastic beer coolers since most plastic becomes as brittle as glass at dry ice temps. KEEP YOUR CAR WINDOW AT LEAST CRACKED since CO2 is heavier than air and it can sneak up on you and kill you. The same thinking should be done in the home, put it somewhere where the gas can drain outside safely. If you know all this already I am sorry to have offended your intelligence, I darn near lost a friend that wanted to make a smoking punch for a party and mis used dry ice.~gd
 

Emerald

Lovin' The Homestead
Joined
Aug 23, 2010
Messages
882
Reaction score
3
Points
84
Location
Michigan
An Amish lady told my Aunt to buy and put good bay leaves in the cupboards and the dry goods, helps keep india mealy moths out of your foods. So my mother and Aunt both picked up bay leaves and got some for me and darn if it doesn't work well. I change them out about every three months in the cupboard.

The worst invasion I got was from some bird seed that I got from my daughter for my birthday(its in the dead of winter and I feed the birds you get the picture) The little moths were every where. I also freeze my flours for a week before putting them away..
 

ORChick

Almost Self-Reliant
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
2,525
Reaction score
3
Points
195
~gd said:
ORChick said:
If you have a bit of spare room in the freezer - say, 5# worth - you can freeze your food in batches. You'll want to freeze it all of course, but each lot only needs 3 or 4 days, and it won't go bad waiting for that period of time. Just don't mix the already frozen with the not yet frozen ;). Dry ice would also work, or oxygen absorbers. There is a supermarket here in town that has dry ice; I'm not sure why, but have seen the sign. Emergency manuals usually suggest looking in the yellow pages for meat packers for dry ice.
Unless you have a medical lab in town dry ice is often used to flash freeze lab samples. After they are frozen they are then shipped with cold Packs (frozen to dry ice temperature) They are NOT shipped with dry ice since it off gasses huge amounts of CO2 and NO ONE will accept it for shipment! If you are buying it remember that you need oven mit like gloves to handle it. I know everybody here hates styrofoam but a thick walled styrofoam cooler or a card board box lined on all surfaces with sheet foam works better than plastic beer coolers since most plastic becomes as brittle as glass at dry ice temps. KEEP YOUR CAR WINDOW AT LEAST CRACKED since CO2 is heavier than air and it can sneak up on you and kill you. The same thinking should be done in the home, put it somewhere where the gas can drain outside safely. If you know all this already I am sorry to have offended your intelligence, I darn near lost a friend that wanted to make a smoking punch for a party and mis used dry ice.~gd
Hey ~gd~ very good advice, and I always feel that warned twice (or more! :lol:) is better than not warned at all :lol:
 
Top