Sufficient Self's Bible Study Group

[Dace]

Heheee....agreed. I know that she cares deeply about her cross belts and is proud to show her faith in this way....it would just be uncomfortable for me.

So is it wrong then to have a dressy cross and a casual cross? Apparently that is what I did .
Perhaps it is all about intent?

Boy I drive myself crazy!

 

[BarredBuff]

Ok you might laugh @ me but I am going to throw this out here anyway. Has Jesus and the spirt always exist in the three entity?

Jesus was there from the beginning. He is and was a part of God from before creation. In John Chapter 1:1-4 says He was.

And so was the spirit. The 3 entities have always been God.

 

[Beekissed]

You are WAY overthinking this! Did you buy the cross because it was a cross or because it was a pretty piece of jewelry? Or both? If you bought that cross and are going to display it because it symbolizes your faith, then I see no problem with it at all.

Where I have a problem is when someone wears or tattoos a cross on their person and they do it to minimize the meaning of His sacrifice. As if it were merely another piece of jewelry and nothing more. But then, that's just my hangup and I don't dwell on it....just notice that this is how I feel when the subject comes around.

What I feel about it is not necessarily how you should feel about it....every person holds the purpose of their actions in their own heart.

 

[BarredBuff]

I tend to think it is literal. Jesus prayed to God, not to Himself. He called God His Father. We can use the human body for a metaphor but God's being is not like ours. He is not confined to a physical form nor is He confined to being just a spirit.

When it states that Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God, I believe that He is actually sitting there, right beside God, the Father. I can't imagine that a God as powerful as the one true God would have to be confined to our perception of a being.

Just as the Holy Spirit can abide in each of us and still be in God, so can Jesus abide separately but still as one with God, the Father. Jesus is God in the flesh and now inhabits a resurrected body. God had to take this form to redeem the flesh as well as the spirit, as humans are both. Jesus still inhabits that new and resurrected body and we shall know him and fellowship with Him in Heaven, just as we will with God, the Father.

Jesus prayed to God not to Himself......makes very little sense IMO. Jesus is God in the flesh.

Replace pray with communicate. Replace Jesus with flesh(his part of the trinity) replace God with mind(His part of the trinity) and it makes much more sense. The body and mind have to be in costant communication for action to take place. A paralytic can think about moving their arm all day long, but that doesn't make it move. Paralytics can't move their arm because the flesh and body no longer correctly communicate. I think the trinity is just a higher form of communication.

That makes LOTS of sense.....

 

[Dace]

You are WAY overthinking this! Did you buy the cross because it was a cross or because it was a pretty piece of jewelry? Or both? If you bought that cross and are going to display it because it symbolizes your faith, then I see no problem with it at all.

Where I have a problem is when someone wears or tattoos a cross on their person and they do it to minimize the meaning of His sacrifice. As if it were merely another piece of jewelry and nothing more. But then, that's just my hangup and I don't dwell on it....just notice that this is how I feel when the subject comes around.

What I feel about it is not necessarily how you should feel about it....every person holds the purpose of their actions in their own heart.

I know....over thinking.

I bought it because it is a lovely cross which I will treasure and proudly wear as a symbol of my faith and a constant reminder that God sent His only Son to save me from my sins.

Better? Feel free to smack me anytime.

 

[bambi]

I don't wear jewelry myself. I love the look but dislike how it feels. I have been married 34 yrs and I don't wear my ring it stays in the jewelry box where it won't get lost. Dace if it is a comfort to you I really can't see how it would be an insult to others if you wore it and not sure if I would be concern how it would effect others

 

[Farmfresh]

The trinity has always been its never changed. Its always been there and it makes the substance of God. God is ONE but THREE distinct persons

God The Father: He is the creator and the nurturer of his people. In a way he is the master mind of the entire universe. He is outisde of time and space. He has no Earthly physical form (that I know of) he is a spirit in Heaven. (forgive me if I made a boo boo)

God The Son: He is the savior. He is God, he was there from the beggining. He is God incarnate.

God The Spirit: He is the force within all of us, that tells us to do good and that assists us. He is God also. He was not revealed until after the Son was revealed yet he has always been and will always be.

I hope I explained it good.

All except for one little thing. God the Spirit resides in all of us who are Christians - not in all of us. The Holy Spirit is what takes up residence when we accept Jesus as our Savior. The Spirit then indwells us to give us extra insight and understanding as well as comfort.

You know the how the Bible says the body is the temple of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 6:19 "Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?"

Well that makes us as Christians different from every other religion in the world. All other religions have a special holy temple or holy place. Most of them cause their pilgrims to migrate to those places just to see them. We are different. Our God indwells each one of us. WE ARE the temple. That is why we can pray anywhere in any circumstance and our God always listens and hears us.

 

[BarredBuff]

Thanks for correcting me FarmFresh!! That really helps me understand!! Thanks!!

 

[Farmfresh]

Ok you might laugh @ me but I am going to throw this out here anyway. Has Jesus and the spirt always exist in the three entity?

God is the same as he always has been and always will be. Trinity and all.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

This verse has always indicated to me that he was referring to Himself in the plural. There are other verses in other parts of the Bible that point clearly to the fact that Jesus was present at the Creation as was the Holy Spirit. I am just not student enough to find them right now when I need them.

 

[Wannabefree]

Ok you might laugh @ me but I am going to throw this out here anyway. Has Jesus and the spirt always exist in the three entity?

God is the same as he always has been and always will be. Trinity and all.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

This verse has always indicated to me that he was referring to Himself in the plural. There are other verses in other parts of the Bible that point clearly to the fact that Jesus was present at the Creation as was the Holy Spirit. I am just not student enough to find them right now when I need them.

THANK YOU! SO many folks miss this pluralization in the scripture!