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[inchworm]

I don't know if I have the backbone to actually do it, but I would fire him. I went through an apprenticeship in a small shop in the early part of my career. The whole character of the shop would change every time we got a new employee or lost one. The deadwood needs to be cut out to keep your productive wood fruitful, if you know what I mean.

As an apprentice, I did whatever the boss asked during business hours including picking up her kids from school once or twice and babysitting once in a pinch. I cleaned the bathroom, took the trash out, etc. And at the end of the day, I thanked her for giving me the opportunity. 22 years later, I work for myself, but I still have undying loyalty to that boss and she continues to look out for me.

Here's to all the bosses that give us a start in life !

Inchworm

 

[2dream]

Am I being a bonehead? In order to keep from firing him, how would you handle this????

You are not being a bonehead. Your shop, Your rules.

You ask how I (I assume meaning anyone) would handle this.

My first thing would be to call him into the office, close the door and show him his W2 form. Remind him that when he was hired he had NO skills and that W2 form is the amount of money YOU have invested in him and what skills he now has. Let him know you don't want to lose that investment but.....you along with some of the other employees are really tired of his constant complaints and potty mouth and if he is not happy there he needs to find someplace that makes him happy. Let it be his call. Play nice or be gone.

 

[EweSheep]

Am I being a bonehead? In order to keep from firing him, how would you handle this????

You are not being a bonehead. Your shop, Your rules.

You ask how I (I assume meaning anyone) would handle this.

My first thing would be to call him into the office, close the door and show him his W2 form. Remind him that when he was hired he had NO skills and that W2 form is the amount of money YOU have invested in him and what skills he now has. Let him know you don't want to lose that investment but.....you along with some of the other employees are really tired of his constant complaints and potty mouth and if he is not happy there he needs to find someplace that makes him happy. Let it be his call. Play nice or be gone.

Well said!!!

 

[FarmerChick]

Problem with the rant on the "employee"

is that

YOU are a good guy.




I know!!!

Time comes when a new employee is not right. Personalities clash, work ethic clashes, etc. etc.

Do the right thing for your company.

Cut out the negative and flow with the postive....it is as simple as that as "how hard it is to do!"



My neighbor Dave just built my new addition on my home.
His young help has a preggo girlfriend and is not a good worker even though, I saw him only 2 times on the job in all these months, he swears he works HARD.....LOL

So Dave had to do it.......


Hey ---pick your gut. Unload the bad, in with the one that wants it! And there is ONE out there that wants the opportunity!!!

 

[miss_thenorth]

I would have to say I agree with the others. You're the boss, your earned the privilege to go hunting and fishing on opening day.

And then, the morale in the workplace is very important. Keep the good employees happy. If he is a thorn in everyone's side, the thorn needs to be removed. You don't owe him anything. He needs to earn his paycheck like everyone else, if he's complaining, there is a problem. Truth is --he is replaceable. Preferably by someone who will complement the morale tha is/was existing.

Another bonus on getting rid of the dead wood, is it sends a message out to everyone else. As in, ''this is what happens when...."

 

[modern_pioneer]

ES-

Now, with your farm, didn't you think you bit off more than you can chew and didn't realize how much $$$$$ it takes to invest in bringing up the farm in its highlight of its foundation?

Thats a good question and I have two different answer, think perspective.

In the short term, yes, in the long term, no.

Because my plan is 5 years, I am in the third year now, I look at the cost as part of the plan. I often barter whenever I can and try to do things as cheap as possible. If my approach to do it cheap isn't practical, I'd rather pay the cost to have something done right the first time. IE: I was going to build my whole coop from lumber I already had on hand, I never thought about the weight. Because its a tractor style, moving that amount of weight (1100 lbs) wasn't practical. So I had to purchase wood.

In just a few weeks I will be 39 y/o, so looking into my future here on my farm, I will be here many more years. Right now I am in good health, strong and my mind is sharp (depends who you ask LOL). My Grandpa passed away when he was 82, he was a gentle farmer till he was in his late 60's. God willing, I hope to be able to continue to work my land longer than he did. We once had a conversation about what he would do different, one thing I remember was planting fruit trees 8-9 years apart. So I am going to do that.

I think the biggest cost, the new water system when we first moved here, was the blind side we never saw coming. The water was so bad it made my dog sick. We had been cautioned by my Uncle not to drink the water till we had tested ourselves, but we gave it to the dog. Later we would learn that the wtaer was bad and we would have to invest into a new water system that would cost 6k up front. But I will say this, we gots some guuudd drinking water.

The amount of work it would take? Oh my, I never thought about how much work all this would take. But really, seeing the fruits of my labor, and the positive reactions, it all tells me I am doing something good with my time. Recently I inspired Judy to start a garden again, she even told me so. Her and Lil haven't had a garden since all the men pass away in the family.

 

[modern_pioneer]

Thank-you to every one for taking your time to help me with such a tough problem. I can assure you its not the matter of having the backbone, the matter is how much I have invested verses his attitude. Today he seems to much calmer, and hasn't bothered anyone so I am told.

However, this matter isn't over yet and I am going to make his life a little harder. I am going to raise the bar and strong arm him into doing his job better while fixing his attitude. When in the Army, me and some others were giving this one soldier a hard time. What we were doing was againist U.C.M.J (uniform code of military justic) and when we got caught by our Lt., he made a statement " the skillcraft is mightier than the sword". Now Skillcraft is the company that makes the militarys pens. He proved that to all four of us by giving us extra duties for a month in lieu of a company grade article 15.

With all of your input, combined with my own judgement, I have decided to write him up and be held accountable for his actions. If he so much as looks at me stupid, I will fire him. If he lashes out at other employees, he's gone. I will call him in the office and handle this matter more privately than yesterday. Everyone seems to know that something is going on, I have spent more time in the shop watching whats being done. Of course I am out thinking, looking at every one, considering my options with this big mouth.

Am I being a bonehead? In order to keep from firing him, how would you handle this????

You are not being a bonehead. Your shop, Your rules.

You ask how I (I assume meaning anyone) would handle this.

My first thing would be to call him into the office, close the door and show him his W2 form. Remind him that when he was hired he had NO skills and that W2 form is the amount of money YOU have invested in him and what skills he now has. Let him know you don't want to lose that investment but.....you along with some of the other employees are really tired of his constant complaints and potty mouth and if he is not happy there he needs to find someplace that makes him happy. Let it be his call. Play nice or be gone.

YEAH what Wanda said!!! Thanks

 

[lorihadams]

All I am going to say about that matter is go with your gut, you know what you need to do to make it right per your expectations.

I saw on another post that you wanted a laundry soap recipe and I thought I would give you mine.

1 bar grated ivory soap
1 cup washing soda
1 cup baking soda
1 cup borax

mix together and use 2 tablespoons per large load
for really dirty loads (especially whites) I add extra borax, don't measure just dump some in and wing it!

I use plain white vinegar in the rinse cycle for fabric softening

My clothes don't really have a smell to them (which I like) Both my kids and my hubby have mild eczema and haven't had any problems with this
The ivory is easier to find than fels or zote, in my opinion

Washing soda I found at Krogers and everything else you can get just about anywhere.

 

[Blackbird]

$12 after 14 months with no skill?!?

My mom has worked at the same laboratory for 10 years, no one else there can do her job even as near well as she can and she's finally making over $10..

I say fire his whiney butt. LOL.

He has no idea how hard some people have it.

 

[hennypenny9]

I still make minimum wage after three years at my job. Each time I get my "raise" (which is 3%), minimum wage goes up, so it nulls my raise. We have one of the highest minimum wages, so it's not that bad. I don't complain, although I have many more responsibilities than when I started. It's customer service, and yes, many people are nice. But I very frequently get yelled at. Something is too expensive, we don't have a product they were told we had, we're out of a product, etc. Nothing I can change.

Basically, if I mouthed off, I would be gone in a second. The managers work like dogs, and have to take the brunt of customer complaints, so if I implied that they were just sitting in their office, I probably would be escorted to the door! Anyway, do what you need to do. There are probably dozens of more skilled, nicer, employees waiting. Especially the way things are.

My step-dad owns a roofing business. Times are tough, but we have actually HIRED someone. Why? Because so many extremely skilled and experienced roofers are out of work. Sorry to be long-winded, but I can't stand whiners.