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FarmerJamie

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I wonder too why people want to build homes on such places. Beachfront, cliffside, riverfront, all are doomed to someday fall to the whims of nature.
God designed and put into place the forces of nature. He doesn’t create every storm. Nature and weather patterns create storms. It is up to us to have sense enough to not live on the front line of disaster.

My own sister has moved back to her flood house close to, not on the banks of, the San Jacinto River. FEMA didn’t buy her out fast enough. She put the house she bought up for sale and went back. I think she is dumb as a box of rocks. As I always say…..
YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID.

That said, the summer camp, camp mystic, has been there for almost 100 years. Flash floods have come and gone, never doing damage like this.
Sad...

Every Spring, residents living next to the rivers flowing into Lake Erie deal with flooding from the ice breaking up and forming ice dams. Listening to the flooded homeowners cry about this happening every few years makes me question their logic.
 

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I understand the century events. I think all communities should plan for them. Look at the geological history.

We have our lahar warning system and the last one was 500 years ago and was only 20 feet deep. Its the almost 200ft ones they worry about hitting. The remains of those are visible in the Puget Sound.

Reminds me of the Oso mudslide. They knew the mudslide history of that area and allowed year round residents to be there. It was originally only supposed to be half year resident max for camping housing. That was too much even when it was decided because even bigger mudslides had been recorded.

I didn't grow up where there is a lot of rain. 9 inches a year. In school we were only taught that a small earthquake was a possibility, or the Umatilla River flooding and covering the low lying football field, because it had happened last in the 1960s.

Only Pendleton would be really effected. The river used to flow through downtown Pendleton in the spring. Then they built a bunch of levees. People there get surprised when there is record snow and then heavier than normal spring rainfall and the levees overtop. Oh no our houses are flooding. Well you're the idiots who bought a house built within the last 30 years in a bad low spot. There's a reason all the old houses are on hills.
 

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... People there get surprised when there is record snow and then heavier than normal spring rainfall and the levees overtop. Oh no our houses are flooding. Well you're the idiots who bought a house built within the last 30 years in a bad low spot. There's a reason all the old houses are on hills.

yes, the several dam collapses in mid-Michigan in recent years was a good example of that happening. it turned out my brother's place near there is just a few feet sideways and perhaps a few feet higher from the 100yr flood elevation (but the flood waters did not get that high).

where we are at here is flat and might flash flood if we get a lot of rain but it will not flood our house - it's just not hilly enough here to have deep gullies and washes, plus there is some ground cover and green stuff which can soak up some of the rain.

last week we had a heavy rain which flowed across the south field (until it hits the berm i put in). glad to say the neighbors had it growing enough to have the water flowing clear.

in arid parts you can devise methods of capturing even large amounts of rains, but it takes a lot of concerted effort (they manage to do it in places in Africa and it works) and it has to be done in layers and layers - that is, it's not a one-time thing, but it can transform an entire region. Keyline Design is really interesting...
 

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Another hot one -- hey, it's summer 😁 Waiting on final rinse, so I can hang out this load of clothes. I dislike adding a softener but, not as much as hard, stiff clothes off line in this heat. A cap of softener is less than a load in the dryer 👍. Chores were all done earlier. Dew wet grass everywhere. Need to mow lawn again -- just did this a few days ago.

Remind self-- it's summer!!
 

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