An amazing quote.

[On Our own]

I love it when someone has actually researched a subject and post from what they have learned vs what they have heard. I think the EFCA is going to pass. I think severe wage disparity as it exist right now is going to change. By the way I am guilty of posting what I have heard without proper research too.

Thank you.

I wish I thought EFCA was going to pass. Originally I too had reservations. I heard alot of badmouthing about it and hadn't actually read it.

I have since read it. Secret ballots don't get eliminated!! The decision becomes the employees'! They can choose to have a secret ballot or sign in.

 

[me&thegals]

That's great. I am for the little guy, and it sure looks like a lot of CEOs are not looking out for their employees. I am just very negatively impressed by one particular union's recruiting and discrediting tactics in my family's business.

ETA--I'm also glad to hear the secret ballots will not be eliminated!

 

[On Our own]

Out our way here recently a fairly large builder just went under. He made the call from Aruba! No one got their last pay checks and several small firms are going under because he is not paying their bills.

The one guy is mortgaging his house and selling his backhoes to pay his guys severance pay. His business is gone and he'll end up owing big and he has to go work for some one else. He is as miserable as can be, but he did the right thing by his employees.

That other dude should probably not come back here. When people found out that he had taken off with the last payroll.....

 

[me&thegals]

Yeah--My parents have told horror stories over the years of not being paid by other builders while these guys literally do as outrageous things as buying yachts, going on expensive vacations...

Maybe I'm naive, but it seems like a lot of our big business has just lost its integrity. And, while it may be living by the letter of the law, a lot certainly aren't living by the spirit of it, as in protecting their employees to the best of their ability.

 

[Tallman]

Maybe I'm naive, but it seems like a lot of our big business has just lost its integrity.

This is very true of all facets of our society. I know workers who just want to get by and draw their pay, always looking for ways to chisel something out of their company without earning it, so the problem cuts both ways; however, when it is done at the top, and a lot of people get hurt it is a very sad thing to watch.

We use to be a nation who did business based upon verbal communication (handshake deals). From verbal communication we moved to the written contract, and now we are at the point where the written contract is constantly being challenged in court. Picking at words here and picking at words there instead of simply looking at the common sense desire of that which was intended in the first place.

To me the integrity problem is the bottom line in our entire society. I see the lack of it in the government, the corporation, the worker, the neighbor and myself. So it goes with man on this side of what we call eternity.

 

[CJHames]

I was talking to one of our clients the other day, a man who works for a large Wall Street firm. He actually still has his job because he works in the "back office.". He's a tax specialist, has a masters degree in taxation (didn't know you could get one of those without spending some serious time in the U.S House of Representatives). He reviews clients portfolios and incomes, etc., and finds the best way for them to invest (or shelter) their income from taxation.

I asked him what he thought of the economy and where we are headed. "We are screwed," he said. Then he pointed a finger at me and said "You especially are screwed (I am a small businessman). What Obama wants to do will not work. His (Obama's) estimate (I used that word just for you GoDadddy) that he'll cut the deficit in half in five years ain't gonna happen. He used a 5% growth projection as an estimate of incoming tax revenues. He's dreaming. This budget deficit is going to swell like a thumb after a hammer hitting it, and the Chinese are going to stop buying our debt."

He, like so many others, is predicting massive inflation at some point.

If y'all are interested in a frightening story on a new law Congress wants to pass regarding organic farming, farming or eating food click on this link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92002

Enjoy.

 

[patandchickens]

If y'all are interested in a frightening story on a new law Congress wants to pass

Er, I think it totally remains to be *seen* whether "congress wants to pass" it. It is a *bill*. Anybody can propose a bill and as long as they get a few of their fellow senators to co-sponsor it, which people will pretty much always do unless the bill is about something like cutting congressional paychecks <g>, the bill has to be considered.

There are any number of strange or worrisome things that get PROPOSED. Getting PASSED is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

So while it is something to keep an eye on and maybe write yer congressperson about, it is not like "congress wants to pass this" at this point.

Pat

 

[Tallman]

The idea that the bill HR 875 was even conceived gives me cause to be concerned. Many times in our government something starts as a spark, and then over time it becomes law. Something like this bill will probably get passed sometime in the name of getting us out of some "crises."

 

[On Our own]

Not if you speak up!



We're not screwed because of Obama we're screwed because this monetary system we've been under for the last thirty years doesn't work.

chrismartenson.com/crashcourse

I said something on here a while back about this being the first time in history that the global economy has hinged on the value of a currency that was fiat (had no intrinsic value) and someone argued that this had been this way for 30 years so clearly it was not the first time in history!

30 years is a pittance of time! Please! It isn't even my lifetime! Yes, it is the first time in history that the global economy has been tied to the value of a fiat currency and it is failing.

No matter what Obama does the very best he and congress can do is slow down the decline. They can't stop it. If they are very lucky and what he is doing slows it down the decline could take another 30 years in which case everyone will have lost sight of what caused it or why it changed.

 

[DrakeMaiden]

As far as regulating what you and I grow on our own property . . . there is already legal precedence for the US gov to tell us we are "interfering with interstate commerce" by growing our own food. There was a case in the 20's or 30's. The situation of that case was different from the climate of today, but if the gov wants to argue precedence, they have it.

But I guess if the gov finds too much resistance from the little people, they could always just fly over us and spray our crops and fields with herbicides. There is precedence of our gov doing that in other countries.