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I certainly understand the concern of those with conditions and their loved ones concerns for them. We don't go off the farm much and wear a mask when we go in public places. Does it help? Dunno, we are not sick, so not breathing on anyone else that we could transmit illness to. We are all doing the best we can with this, but somewhere it has to stop. The shut downs have to stop.
 

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I've reached the point where I don't give a crap about where this started, how it got here, who's right or who's wrong. It's been christianized, demonized, politicized and dramatized to death.

Here's my question....what if this hadn't happened in the evil era we live in now? What if it had a different name and wasn't called Covid....what if it was called TB? Here's the suggestions for preventing transmission of TB:

This is from the Minnesota Dept of Health
Here are some very important things you should do to prevent spreading your TB germs to other people:

  • Always cover your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze. Some people cough less when they drink warm liquids.
  • While at home, spend only a short time in rooms that other people use like the bathroom or kitchen. You do not need to wear a mask at home while around family members who have been living with you.
  • Do not let visitors come to your house except for health care workers. Do not go to visit other people.
  • If you can, use a fan or open the windows in your home. This helps to move the air around. You may go outside of your home in the open air without your mask.
  • Directly Observed Therapy (DOT) is the best way to cure your TB. Your doctor and public health nurse will tell you about DOT. A health care worker will bring your TB medicine to you and will watch you take it. Be sure to tell your health care worker if you have any problems or questions about your TB medicine.
  • Do not go to work, school, your place of worship, the library, or public places like the grocery store and post office.
  • Do not use public transportation including buses, taxicabs, trains, and airplanes.
  • You should go to all of your medical appointments. Your doctor will check you and make sure the TB medicine is working. If you miss an appointment, it may take longer to cure your TB.
  • Your doctor or nurse will give you a special face mask. Wear this mask when you go to the clinic or hospital.
  • Your doctor or public health nurse will tell you when you can stop using your mask and return to normal activities.
Sound familiar? But, I don't see the whole world revolting over these suggestions.
 

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nutters gonna nut, it's just a shame that they often end up killing innocents in the process - if it only came back on them i'd have no problems with them not wearing masks or being idiots in other manners. i do believe in freedom as long as it doesn't end up harming others.

asymptomatic spreading has killed a few relatives and friends by now and made others very sick. i don't know how many more will be caught by this.

when HIV started going around i thought the testing process could have been ramped up a lot more than it was to find those who were infected and get them at least to know what was going on. to put those in prison who would not modify their behaviors, etc. yes, that's legit as far as i'm concerned for a fatal disease. i'm pretty sure you can be convicted for knowingly giving someone else HIV in some places. at least now there are treatments for it which is better than nothing, but i still think that testing everyone no matter what should be done to eliminate it completely.
 

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Take out the politics, the "end of the world" scenarios, the "I'm right and you're wrongs" and this should become what it actually is. It's a disease, an illness. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't care if you're Republican or Democrat or Christian or not.

It's simple - this virus wants to live as badly as we do so it finds a new host as often as it can. The only goal it has is to hang around for as long as possible. Our goal should be to do what we can to mitigate the spread.

Just takes some common sense.
 

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I've reached the point where I don't give a crap about where this started, how it got here, who's right or who's wrong. It's been christianized, demonized, politicized and dramatized to death.

Here's my question....what if this hadn't happened in the evil era we live in now? What if it had a different name and wasn't called Covid....what if it was called TB? Here's the suggestions for preventing transmission of TB:

This is from the Minnesota Dept of Health
Here are some very important things you should do to prevent spreading your TB germs to other people:

  • Always cover your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze. Some people cough less when they drink warm liquids.
  • While at home, spend only a short time in rooms that other people use like the bathroom or kitchen. You do not need to wear a mask at home while around family members who have been living with you.
  • Do not let visitors come to your house except for health care workers. Do not go to visit other people.
  • If you can, use a fan or open the windows in your home. This helps to move the air around. You may go outside of your home in the open air without your mask.
  • Directly Observed Therapy (DOT) is the best way to cure your TB. Your doctor and public health nurse will tell you about DOT. A health care worker will bring your TB medicine to you and will watch you take it. Be sure to tell your health care worker if you have any problems or questions about your TB medicine.
  • Do not go to work, school, your place of worship, the library, or public places like the grocery store and post office.
  • Do not use public transportation including buses, taxicabs, trains, and airplanes.
  • You should go to all of your medical appointments. Your doctor will check you and make sure the TB medicine is working. If you miss an appointment, it may take longer to cure your TB.
  • Your doctor or nurse will give you a special face mask. Wear this mask when you go to the clinic or hospital.
  • Your doctor or public health nurse will tell you when you can stop using your mask and return to normal activities.
Sound familiar? But, I don't see the whole world revolting over these suggestions.
The reason this makes sense is because it is telling the person WITH TB, to do these things. It is not telling the rest of the world to hole up and go into hibernation and let everything else in life stop.....It is not telling perfectly healthy people that they have to be "quarantined" ....just in case.....

That list makes perfect sense for someone with any type of "transmissible disease".... flu, cold, ANYTHING. QUARANTINE the sick one.....
In other words. if you feel sick STAY THE HE// HOME and get over it.
And if you read that article that @Beekissed posted.... the ASYMPTOmatic people are not a threat to spreading it.... so NO REASON to shut everything down since someone MIGHT be an asymptomatic carrier....
 

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That list makes perfect sense for someone with any type of "transmissible disease"...
I said - pretend Covid is TB, in all the places Covid is - TB is. Then it makes sense. Period.

This is just what I'm talking about! I have no intention to read something that someone posted JUST TO STIR THE POT. That's just the crap that keeps everyone at everyone else's throats. I've been guilty of it too and I no longer intend to be. Ya'll can keep fighting about who's right and who's wrong and I'm just going to try not to get it or give it to anyone that I love.

DONE!
 
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The reason this makes sense is because it is telling the person WITH TB, to do these things. It is not telling the rest of the world to hole up and go into hibernation and let everything else in life stop.....It is not telling perfectly healthy people that they have to be "quarantined" ....just in case.....

That list makes perfect sense for someone with any type of "transmissible disease".... flu, cold, ANYTHING. QUARANTINE the sick one.....
In other words. if you feel sick STAY THE HE// HOME and get over it.
And if you read that article that @Beekissed posted.... the ASYMPTOmatic people are not a threat to spreading it.... so NO REASON to shut everything down since someone MIGHT be an asymptomatic carrier....


Well put, FJ!!! The logic of that list for dealing with a deadly, transmissable disease (TB) is based on medical science. And, it is appropriate. Covid protocol is not based on science. It is not based on anything other than keeping the public in a state of hyped up fear frenzy and causing division. Apparently, the current protocol has accomplished both of these goals.
 
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What? When Public Health is talking about asymptomstic spread they are talking about the window of time when an infected person is not symptomatic YET and doesnt test positive YET but is contagious. Its like 3 day window.

The article is using the logical fallacy of ambiguity by discussing the uncommon situation where a person never develops symptoms. These few people never were the reason for distancing.
 
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