I watched the documentary "Fat Head" ....

[bibliophile birds]

This is all new to me. I though soy was good for you and now I am hearing that it may not be. I honestly don't know what is good and bad about soy; but I drink soymilk so I am concerned. I just don't like milk. What would be a good alternative?

there are several reports out (i don't have my finger on them at the moment, but i'll look for them) that are completely contradicting the earlier reports that soy is a wonderfood. at one point, soy was supposed to help prevent cancer. now research is showing that it actually stimulates the reoccurance of cancer cells in cancer survivors, especially breast and cervical cancer. it's because soy isoflavones mimic estrogen.

it also is linked to the increase in thyroid disease (really all endocrine problems) and thyroid problems that are difficult to treat. not only can it cause thyroid disease (especially in infants given soy formula) but it can stop thyroid medications from being absorbed by the body.

there's another story, that i haven't research further, that soy products contain unusually elevated levels of aluminum, which is known to cause nervous system problems and possibly bring on Alzheimer's.

 

[abifae]

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[ZohBug]

oooh! i shall try this. i don't have canning stuff though. so... recommendation on a canner? lol. i'm perpetually broke but i'd squeeze a canner into my budget for the kitty

Check yard sales, craigslist, freecycle, etc. for a canner. Perhaps even consider putting a "wanted" sale on craigslist. I got my canner this past fall for $5 this way. It's an old one and came without instructions and needed a new seal ($1 at the hardware store), but I found directions online and the company talked me through the rest. I get mason jars all the time for about $6-8/flat depending on the size (the more expensive ones are the 1/2 gallon sizes we use for milk and yogurt). They run $10/flat at the hardware store though. Sometimes people give them away on freecycle and craigslist! I'm sure I have wayy too many.

 

[freemotion]

PM'd abifae!

 

[me&thegals]

insidious is such a good word for soy. the saddest thing is that old world soy supposedly was really good for you, but that kind of soy is near impossible to locate these days, especially outside of rural Asia. how i long to eat some really good edamame and not worry about critical thyroid failure.

Well, nuts. I don't do milk (at least quietly) and so have about 3 cups of soy milk per week. I had thyroid issues at one point. I really don't want to know, but tell me what's wrong with soy.

mayo is supposed to be easy to make at home, but i've not tried it yet. i don't eat a lot of it, but it's just a matter of time before i really crave some fruit salad and then i'll make some at home.

I think Free had a recipe using just egg yolks and oil...

 

[abifae]

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[me&thegals]

I tend to rotate through things to not be too stuck on one food. Soy is the most common, but I do rice and almond also. Mostly, I don't drink any type of milk. I get plenty of dairy in the form of yogurt (homemade) and cheese. Occasional tofu and Bragg's liquid aminos instead of soy sauce.

Ugggghhh. Is anybody else weary of always finding out the latest thing that is not good for you?

 

[FarmerChick]

what is worse is after "they" say it is bad for you------new studies emerge saying they were wrong in the past. now it is good for you.

how many times have we heard----bad for you in the olden days, now proven to be good for you. Or proven great for you in the olden days, now proved to be horrible for you.

LOL

 

[ZohBug]

what is worse is after "they" say it is bad for you------new studies emerge saying they were wrong in the past. now it is good for you.

how many times have we heard----bad for you in the olden days, now proven to be good for you. Or proven great for you in the olden days, now proved to be horrible for you.

LOL

I think it's largely a matter of "following the money." Like the NIH study I linked to earlier in this thread regarding soy where they basically admitted that soy isn't some great wunderkind as it was advertised. That study is dated 2005 and given that studies take about two years to hit print, they probably had that info since at least 2003. Why wasn't there a press release? Why wasn't there something put out to require re-labeling of all of these products with the "heart healthy" seal on them because the NIH study didn't support that? Well, follow the money. Big Agri is invested in soy beans so that's not going to happen.

Also, if you research the history of Crisco, you'll see that that was also a money maker which put butter out of business. Other things naturally followed from that.

I'm really not a conspiracy theorist and am usually the one moaning and rolling my eyes when I hear such things, but really, when you really research how these things have evolved and match up the timelines of food trending over history, it's hard to miss.

 

[me&thegals]

I know. It drives me batty. Remember how bad coconut oil was supposed to be? And how good canola?

That's why I try to eat fresh, whole, organic foods as much as possible, free-range meats/eggs as much as possible, get good sleep (oops) and exercise, drink lots of water and try not to get too stuck on any one food or avoiding any group of foods too stringently, as long as they meet the above criteria.