I'm new, lost and don't know where to begin

SomeWhere

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Oh, so sorry. We are a Christian family of 8. My husband, myself and 5 children at home ages range from 7 to 17. The oldest is 21, married with our first grandchild on the way and trying to make it on their own. She is a receptionist and he is a budding veterinarian. I am a nurse and the company my husband had worked for many years had went thru a major shake-up earlier this year and he chose to take early retirement. We currently live in Los Angeles area. We had done well enough for ourselves over the years that we pretty much bought whatever we needed, but under the circumstances over the last year and reduced income we are having to learn how to do more things for ourselves in order to make those ends meet. Then about a month ago, we learned we had inherited the family farm in New Hampshire from my husbands great-uncle. Come to find out it had once been part of a much larger tract of 160 acres homestead that has since been plotted out. Because of health issues the great-uncle had been in a nursing home facility for the last several years, leaving the house boarded up.
From the information we've been able to obtain about the property, there is a 2-story house, barn and other outbuildings, fruit orchard and gardens. There is a well with old hand pump and a creek running thru the back of the property for water sources, but no electricity or phone directly to the property. Everything is pretty much overgrown and will need a lot of work. We as a family had a sit down meeting and it's been decided that we will be moving up there come this next spring and in the meantime we are trying to learn as much as we can about how to become as self sufficient as possible. Cost of living in LA is depleting our life savings and retirement income on a daily basis so the decision to move was a no-brainer. Our oldest son and his family will be moving with us.
We have a five year plan that goes something like this- the first year will be doing repairs, cleaning it up to find out just what we have and what we'll need. The second and third year will include animals for meat, by-products and reproducing and crops and gardens to not only feed us as a large family but also those animals. The fourth year should be our adjustment year and that is to say that by then we should have a pretty good idea of what we are doing, what needs increased and what needs to be scaled back so that by the fifth year we should be completely or nearly so, self sufficient by living off this land and income produced from it and not having to rely on retirement income or whatever savings may be left. As you can see the first couple of years will be the most expensive because of start up costs and the learning phase. Going from big city life that we have taken for granted, to living like our pioneer ancestors in a matter of a few months will definitely be culture shock for all of us. We haven't even been camping before.

Things we will need to obtain:

chickens-for eggs, meat, restock and income
cows-for milk & by products, meat, restock and income
turkeys-meat, restock and income
pigs-meat, restock and income
a few horses-work, transportation, possibly income
seeds-vegetables, grains, herbs, pasture/hay
canning supplies
grain and meat grinders

Things we need to learn:

animal husbandry
how to garden, harvest, save seeds for future needs
how to preserve the harvest
butchering
how to cook from scratch

--and I'm sure there is a lot more that we will be needing that we haven't even thought of so please feel free to jump right in with thoughts and ideas.

PS. yes, we've been doing a lot of reading here on the forum, books, online searches and obtaining any and all information we can get our hands on. We are trying to learn and prepare as much as possible now because once we move our information resources will be much more limited and when we do move, there is no going back. :frow
 

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SomeWhere said:
Oh, so sorry. We are a Christian family of 8. My husband, myself and 5 children at home ages range from 7 to 17. The oldest is 21, married with our first grandchild on the way and trying to make it on their own. She is a receptionist and he is a budding veterinarian. I am a nurse and the company my husband had worked for many years had went thru a major shake-up earlier this year and he chose to take early retirement. We currently live in Los Angeles area. We had done well enough for ourselves over the years that we pretty much bought whatever we needed, but under the circumstances over the last year and reduced income we are having to learn how to do more things for ourselves in order to make those ends meet. Then about a month ago, we learned we had inherited the family farm in New Hampshire from my husbands great-uncle. Come to find out it had once been part of a much larger tract of 160 acres homestead that has since been plotted out. Because of health issues the great-uncle had been in a nursing home facility for the last several years, leaving the house boarded up.
From the information we've been able to obtain about the property, there is a 2-story house, barn and other outbuildings, fruit orchard and gardens. There is a well with old hand pump and a creek running thru the back of the property for water sources, but no electricity or phone directly to the property.iS it on a paved road or out in the woods? was the house ptoperly stored Unless it was weather tight it may cost more to repair than new construction. Are the taxes up to date?NH raises most of it's revenue from property taxes and if the taxes aren't paid they will seize the title and resell it. The fact that you think you own it indicates (to me) either that the taxes are fairly current or that the property was considered unsaleable. Time for a road trip to see for yourself. Contacts to make include a real estate agent. the pastor of a church that beleives in your faith. you are going to need friends and the fastest is to go to church. Churches are the backbone of rural life! Village and town Clerks [great sources of hard data and gossip]Also the local post office.Good luck I don't think I would have the guts to do what you are doing ~gd Everything is pretty much overgrown and will need a lot of work. We as a family had a sit down meeting and it's been decided that we will be moving up there come this next spring and in the meantime we are trying to learn as much as we can about how to become as self sufficient as possible. Cost of living in LA is depleting our life savings and retirement income on a daily basis so the decision to move was a no-brainer. Our oldest son and his family will be moving with us.
We have a five year plan that goes something like this- the first year will be doing repairs, cleaning it up to find out just what we have and what we'll need. The second and third year will include animals for meat, by-products and reproducing and crops and gardens to not only feed us as a large family but also those animals. The fourth year should be our adjustment year and that is to say that by then we should have a pretty good idea of what we are doing, what needs increased and what needs to be scaled back so that by the fifth year we should be completely or nearly so, self sufficient by living off this land and income produced from it and not having to rely on retirement income or whatever savings may be left. As you can see the first couple of years will be the most expensive because of start up costs and the learning phase. Going from big city life that we have taken for granted, to living like our pioneer ancestors in a matter of a few months will definitely be culture shock for all of us. We haven't even been camping before.

Things we will need to obtain:

chickens-for eggs, meat, restock and income
cows-for milk & by products, meat, restock and income
turkeys-meat, restock and income
pigs-meat, restock and income
a few horses-work, transportation, possibly income
seeds-vegetables, grains, herbs, pasture/hay
canning supplies
grain and meat grinders

Things we need to learn:

animal husbandry
how to garden, harvest, save seeds for future needs
how to preserve the harvest
butchering
how to cook from scratch

--and I'm sure there is a lot more that we will be needing that we haven't even thought of so please feel free to jump right in with thoughts and ideas.

PS. yes, we've been doing a lot of reading here on the forum, books, online searches and obtaining any and all information we can get our hands on. We are trying to learn and prepare as much as possible now because once we move our information resources will be much more limited and when we do move, there is no going back. :frow
 

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Yes, thank you Bubba. You are right. Tools are very important. We are going to be flying out there this weekend to see it first hand and get a much better idea of where we stand with it. We are really getting excited about this new venture. We realize that no matter how much we learn from reading, the actual 'hands on' will be the real lessons learned thru trial and error. We're just trying to keep those errors down to a minimum. We are also getting connected with others that have experience in these types of areas so we can get our feet wet. :frow
 

SomeWhere

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Yes gd, that's exactly what we are doing!
 

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I'm w/TanksHill, get the chickens ASAP. And, even if you don't do a big garden your first year, I'd say do that as well. It's a way to get your feet wet and learn a bit.

Do you have any experience w/horses? If not, I'd hold off on getting them until you have a chance to learn how to work w/them properly.
 

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SomeWhere said:
Things we will need to obtain:

chickens-for eggs, meat, restock and income
Sex links are good layers and are good "first chickens" for beginners. Bear in mind that they molt about 1 to 1 1/2 years old and stop laying while growing in new feathers. And about 3 years old or so, they slow way down on laying, but make tasty stew hens.
cows-for milk & by products, meat, restock and income
milk cows require a regular schedule, usually twice a day milking. The milk is the best you will ever drink.
turkeys-meat, restock and income
pigs-meat, restock and income
You might want to start with a couple of feeder pigs to get your feet wet. Buy piglets in the spring, feed them all summer, then butcher in the fall. If you fall in love with pigs, then you might look into your own sow and boar.
a few horses-work, transportation, possibly income
Horses are a hole in your pocket you dump money in. I have several and I adore them, but for income?? Not a chance. Make horses the last thing you do on the farm.
seeds-vegetables, grains, herbs, pasture/hay
Go with heritage, non GMO garden seeds.
http://www.rareseeds.com/
http://www.seedsavers.org/
http://www.bountifulgardens.org/
http://www.southernexposure.com/
http://sustainableseedco.com/

canning supplies
Buy the Ball book of canning.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i:aps,k:ball book canning
http://nchfp.uga.edu/index.html

grain and meat grinders
This is where I got my Family Grain Mill. They have meat grinders too.
http://www.everythingkitchens.com/grainmills.html


Things we need to learn:

animal husbandry
how to garden, harvest, save seeds for future needs
how to preserve the harvest
butchering
how to cook from scratch

--and I'm sure there is a lot more that we will be needing that we haven't even thought of so please feel free to jump right in with thoughts and ideas.

PS. yes, we've been doing a lot of reading here on the forum, books, online searches and obtaining any and all information we can get our hands on. We are trying to learn and prepare as much as possible now because once we move our information resources will be much more limited and when we do move, there is no going back. :frow
Since it sounds like there is no electricity, you might want to check out the Lehmans catalog. www.lehmans.com They cater to Amish and carry a lot of non electric items. They also carry gas (propane) refrigerators that require no electricity.

Most of all, don't forget to have fun.
 

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Great advice Bee. When I suggested not waiting on chickens, I guess I pesumed they would tend to necessities first.

It's good if you to spell it out.

Shelter, water, waste... electric.


Good to see you Bee. I hope all is well.

Gina
 

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What an amazing adventure for your family! You will find a lot of good advice here that you can glean through and take what works for your situation.

Devoting the first year to cleanup and restoration is a great plan. I think, like some of the others, that chickens could probably be worked in that first year IF you want them. With a family of 8, it would be pretty easy to start with a few layers and assign their care to one of the kiddos. Sex-links are great for eggs. If you want a breed that will breed true for re-stocking, you might want to consider a tried and true heritage breed. Just an idea....

Cows can hurt you, especially if you are inexperienced. Maybe a smaller breed or even.....GOATS! (can you tell I'm biased?) A few goats cn give you all the milk your family can use along with a good source of meat - and highly unlikely that they will stomp you to death.

Pigs - love 'em! They can be dangerous also, but are very intelligent and personable in many cases.

Horses - gotta agree with Bay on that one. Consider them if you want very large pets/pasture ornaments. Its hard and I mean very HARD to 'make money' in horses. True profits are hard to come by in the horse world. If you do decide to purchase a horse or two - please do lots of research, talk to lots of good breeders and don't buy a baby! Get an animal who has had years of wet saddle pads on their back...have it vet checked and cross your fingers. Don't get me wrong - I've had horses all my life. Lately I've downsized to mini's just so I can still smell horse when I'm having a bad day. And, I do believe it's true with all my heart that the "outside of a horse is good for the inside of a (wo)man."

Go gung ho on the garden! Seeds are relatively cheap. Read everything you can on the area you will be working in. Have your soil tested. Even after doing all that - be brave and occasionally plant something just because you want it - even if it's not 'supposed' to do well in that area. Sometimes you just might be surprsed what WILL grow with a little care. In this case, having chickens will work with and/or against your garden. Composted chicken poo is a gardens friend - but scratching chickens in your garden can wreak havoc.

Bottom line - have fun!
 

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Oh, I am sooo envious of you!

BeeKissed has the right idea for checking priorities, but, if your uncle was living in it up to three years ago, it might be all right. It's great you're going to go check it out.

Some things to look for in all the outbuildings are the tools. Chances are, if it was a working homestead all these years and in the same family, that you will have a great stock of tools, especially hand tools, there already. Even in they are rusty and have broken handles they are likely better than what you could buy now a days. Clean them up, repair the handles, and go to town! You might even find the grain and meat grinders there already. In the old days everyone had their own grinders to handle their animal feeds (you probably will need to get one for human use as the animal ones don't go fine enough) and their own butchering equipment.

Is any of the family still in the area? They could be a big help in showing you around. JD's suggestion about finding a church is a great idea, too. Try to meet the neighbors, especially the older ones. They might remember things about the property that could really be helpful as well.

I'm so glad you decided to go for it! It will be hard, I'm sure, but, oh, so worth it! Good luck and God bless!
 

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Good points! Old tools are made so much better than the newer ones and you really can't buy that quality anymore. Don't throw away anything until you know what it is, if you will need it, what it is worth and what it would cost to buy a new one like it and if it can be restored to use.

Also a good point that old neighbors may be able to tell you much about the land, the water, the pasture, the weather patterns, when the buildings were constructed and out of what, what grows well in that area and they may even be able to get you started on livestock and mentor you in that way. Church is a great place to start and word of mouth there will get you more help than you could ever know about all sorts of things.

Go slow and get adjusted to the area before buying new things like churns, grain grinders, corn shellers, crocks, etc....farm auctions are a great place to find old tools and equipment, yard sales and estate sales also.
 
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