Ok, so talk to me, please, food guru's - calorie counting etc.

[Quail_Antwerp]

ok, next question - where do you buy good cheese? Dace mentioned having a chunk of cheddar as a snack. Well, if a person doesn't make their own cheese, what cheese do you suggest they buy?

 

[freemotion]

You will be making your own if you milk that cow and a goat! BTW, when I was a kid, we had a half Angus half Holstein cow and she gave about 4 gallons a day, if I remember correctly, and mostly fed pasture and hay, just a little grain.

Raw cheese is best, and that will be imported from Europe and will be around $25 + per pound. So I like Cabot! If you have a Costco nearby and know someone with a membership, they have a wonderful 16-month cheddar for $3.99 lb and a to-die-for 3 year cheddar for $5.99 lb.

Avoid part-skim mozzarella, try to find whole-milk. You can also just get the store brands, but they will still cost as much as the Cabot cheddars from Costco and not be a tenth as good.

No processed cheese-food, please! Ingredient lists should be not much longer than milk, salt, cultures, rennet.

 

[Henrietta23]

He also seems to have a problem with yogurt and cheese

Only during the induction phase. You reintroduce those foods after you lose some weight.

I never did the Atkins induction stuff, but followed Barry Groves Natural Health and Weight Loss. There are a lot of overlapping things, but no overly restrictive induction on the Groves' plan.

Another point about dairy...many people have dairy intolerances and don't even know it. They discover their condition when they try to reintroduce dairy after stopping for a few weeks. I think more people have a problem with grains and sugars, but there are those who are shocked to discovery a lot of health issues are tie to a dairy allergy of some sort.

"Somewhat less than 40% of people in the world retain the ability to digest lactose after childhood. The numbers are often given as close to 0% of Native Americans, 5% of Asians, 25% of African and Caribbean peoples, 50% of Mediterranean peoples and 90% of northern Europeans. Sweden has one of the world's highest percentages of lactase tolerant people.

Being able to digest milk is so strange that scientists say we shouldn't really call lactose intolerance a disease, because that presumes it's abnormal. Instead, they call it lactase persistence, indicating what's really weird is the ability to continue to drink milk."
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm

When I began my modified Paleo food make-over (think caveman diet) WZ recommended the Barry Groves book to me. I learned so much from it. I do exercise occasionally, nothing heavy duty but most often I'm too busy with work, animals, baseball and trying to cook for my new life style and DS's food allergies. I've lost 24 lbs in less than three months. I still eat red meat, eggs and bacon almost daily, full fat (raw) dairy. I can't remember the last time I was hungry. I eliminated all processed foods, sugar, and starches. This is under the advice of a naturopathic doctor.
Anyway, that's my plug for the book!

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

You will be making your own if you milk that cow and a goat!

Yes, that is the eventual goal. I do remember tasting goat cheese at E's uncle's farm back in '97 and I thought it was delicious! But right now, I don't have a goat in milk, and the goat I'm trying to get my hands on right now isn't bred or in milk - so I'm looking at probably next year before I get to milk a goat. Unless I'm able to find and purchase a goat in milk.

And, Blessing has to be at least 9 months (prefer 1 year) before she can be bred, and then wait 9 months for her to give birth. IF she's big enough at 9 months, we might consider it then - which would be in September - but we risk stunting her growth breeding at 9 months. December she would be 1 year. And hopefully she'll come into a heat.

BTW, when I was a kid, we had a half Angus half Holstein cow and she gave about 4 gallons a day, if I remember correctly, and mostly fed pasture and hay, just a little grain.

Well, that's good to know! We feed hay in winter, and grass pasture the rest of the year. The only time they get grain is once every evening as a treat - and then it's just a small amount of chop. That's more of a training mechanism so that if they should ever get out of their pasture, they'll still show up for that evening treat.


I am so looking forward to fresh milk (either goat or cow or both) that I can make cheese, yogurt, puddings, and fresh butter from! and soap from goats milk!

 

[Henrietta23]

I am so looking forward to fresh milk (either goat or cow or both) that I can make cheese, yogurt, puddings, and fresh butter from! and soap from goats milk!

I'm with you there!!!!

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

He also seems to have a problem with yogurt and cheese

Only during the induction phase. You reintroduce those foods after you lose some weight.

I never did the Atkins induction stuff, but followed Barry Groves Natural Health and Weight Loss. There are a lot of overlapping things, but no overly restrictive induction on the Groves' plan.

Another point about dairy...many people have dairy intolerances and don't even know it. They discover their condition when they try to reintroduce dairy after stopping for a few weeks. I think more people have a problem with grains and sugars, but there are those who are shocked to discovery a lot of health issues are tie to a dairy allergy of some sort.

"Somewhat less than 40% of people in the world retain the ability to digest lactose after childhood. The numbers are often given as close to 0% of Native Americans, 5% of Asians, 25% of African and Caribbean peoples, 50% of Mediterranean peoples and 90% of northern Europeans. Sweden has one of the world's highest percentages of lactase tolerant people.

Being able to digest milk is so strange that scientists say we shouldn't really call lactose intolerance a disease, because that presumes it's abnormal. Instead, they call it lactase persistence, indicating what's really weird is the ability to continue to drink milk."
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm

When I began my modified Paleo food make-over (think caveman diet) WZ recommended the Barry Groves book to me. I learned so much from it. I do exercise occasionally, nothing heavy duty but most often I'm too busy with work, animals, baseball and trying to cook for my new life style and DS's food allergies. I've lost 24 lbs in less than three months. I still eat red meat, eggs and bacon almost daily, full fat (raw) dairy. I can't remember the last time I was hungry. I eliminated all processed foods, sugar, and starches. This is under the advice of a naturopathic doctor.
Anyway, that's my plug for the book!

24 lbs is awesome! congrats!!

Now I have a kind of dumb question - with just changing your diet and occasional exercise, did your waist line also go down?? I don't mean to sound rude, I hope it doesn't sound that way - I'm asking because I'd really like to drop at least 1 pant size - and continue dropping a pants size until I'm comfortable with my body.

I did use my jump rope again today. I've only been doing 10 jumps a day with the rope - and I figured I'd keep doing 10 a day until it didn't exhaust me. That sounds so awful to say I'm winded and tired after 10 jumps, but if it takes a week or two to get used to 10 jumps a day, then I'll add a few more jumps - working the number of jumps up until I can do - oh I dunno - a 100? without feeling like I exerted myself.

I feel like talking about jumping rope says I'm lazy - but I had to find something that I would enjoy doing and that I would stick with - which is why my exercise DVD is a dance video - I love to dance, but I'm going to work out with my jump rope and use the 5 minute cool down exercises to get my body used to doing these things again before I jump into those very active and strenuous 15 minute dances.

I figure if I don't get a handle on my diet, weight, and physical fitness now I'll be in big trouble in a few years.

 

[Henrietta23]

Only during the induction phase. You reintroduce those foods after you lose some weight.

I never did the Atkins induction stuff, but followed Barry Groves Natural Health and Weight Loss. There are a lot of overlapping things, but no overly restrictive induction on the Groves' plan.

Another point about dairy...many people have dairy intolerances and don't even know it. They discover their condition when they try to reintroduce dairy after stopping for a few weeks. I think more people have a problem with grains and sugars, but there are those who are shocked to discovery a lot of health issues are tie to a dairy allergy of some sort.

"Somewhat less than 40% of people in the world retain the ability to digest lactose after childhood. The numbers are often given as close to 0% of Native Americans, 5% of Asians, 25% of African and Caribbean peoples, 50% of Mediterranean peoples and 90% of northern Europeans. Sweden has one of the world's highest percentages of lactase tolerant people.

Being able to digest milk is so strange that scientists say we shouldn't really call lactose intolerance a disease, because that presumes it's abnormal. Instead, they call it lactase persistence, indicating what's really weird is the ability to continue to drink milk."
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm

When I began my modified Paleo food make-over (think caveman diet) WZ recommended the Barry Groves book to me. I learned so much from it. I do exercise occasionally, nothing heavy duty but most often I'm too busy with work, animals, baseball and trying to cook for my new life style and DS's food allergies. I've lost 24 lbs in less than three months. I still eat red meat, eggs and bacon almost daily, full fat (raw) dairy. I can't remember the last time I was hungry. I eliminated all processed foods, sugar, and starches. This is under the advice of a naturopathic doctor.
Anyway, that's my plug for the book!

24 lbs is awesome! congrats!!

Now I have a kind of dumb question - with just changing your diet and occasional exercise, did your waist line also go down?? I don't mean to sound rude, I hope it doesn't sound that way - I'm asking because I'd really like to drop at least 1 pant size - and continue dropping a pants size until I'm comfortable with my body.

I did use my jump rope again today. I've only been doing 10 jumps a day with the rope - and I figured I'd keep doing 10 a day until it didn't exhaust me. That sounds so awful to say I'm winded and tired after 10 jumps, but if it takes a week or two to get used to 10 jumps a day, then I'll add a few more jumps - working the number of jumps up until I can do - oh I dunno - a 100? without feeling like I exerted myself.

I feel like talking about jumping rope says I'm lazy - but I had to find something that I would enjoy doing and that I would stick with - which is why my exercise DVD is a dance video - I love to dance, but I'm going to work out with my jump rope and use the 5 minute cool down exercises to get my body used to doing these things again before I jump into those very active and strenuous 15 minute dances.

I figure if I don't get a handle on my diet, weight, and physical fitness now I'll be in big trouble in a few years.

Ask away! I'm a classic apple-all my weight shows up in my waist first. And leaves there first. I'm down a pants size. I have a pair that fit comfortably two months ago. I thought I was getting away with wearing them still until one day I was walking with my hands full and almost lost them. Literally, they almost slid over my hips. Did I mention I was walking into the high school where I work??? Not cool!
When I work out it's because it makes me feel stronger and more energetic.

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

That sounds like me - apple. It's all in my waist and my bottom.

I guess I'll know in a couple months if changing my diet and adding a few minutes of exercise will help me drop a pants size! or if it'll leave my waist first - that's my biggest problem area, my waist.

And my butt.

 

[Henrietta23]

That sounds like me - apple. It's all in my waist and my bottom.

I guess I'll know in a couple months if changing my diet and adding a few minutes of exercise will help me drop a pants size! or if it'll leave my waist first - that's my biggest problem area, my waist.

And my butt.

Go get 'em!

 

[Dace]

Hey Quail....I lost my weight just with cleaning up my diet. I only started exercising after I lost weight because the weight loss made me more motivated.

I think any exercise is great, it makes you feel terrific and it is good for your heart weight loss, at least in my experience is much more diet related...so is good health.

I agree with what Free said....to maximize weight loss, skip the grains. I know it sounds brutal, but as OFG said...white knuckle it for a week or two and you will no longer crave them! I was a complete and absolute carb junkie....sugar, white flour, rice, potatoes, oh my! Add in chips, crackers, and the occasional burger, fries and soda! Now I really honestly do not crave any of that. I hated veggies and now I crave them.

It is really easy to turn things around, once you set your mind to it. You have loads of support here and Free's class is chock full of amazing info....one little bite at a time