Problems with my dad

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In 1998 my father left my mother and moved from NY to CA. He slowly built a life for himself and met a girlfriend. I kept very little contact with him. We never had a good relationship and I was angry for years about him leaving. About a year ago he started telling us things that didn't seem to be true. We figured he was just lying and didn't make a big deal of it, it was just annoying. He would tell us that he had sent birthday or Christmas presents every year and every year he'd complain about how slow the mail service was and that it would get returned to him. He'd also talk about all the gifts he was buying his girlfriend's grandchildren. He made me angry that he was giving to them and not to his own grandchildren who he rarely saw. He had financial problems and sometimes didn't pay his bills. Sometimes he'd buy expensive furniture or go to a casino instead of paying his overdue bills. Bill collectors have been calling my mother's house try to collect the debts.

About a year ago my brother went to Florida to celebrate my grandmother's 96th birthday. My father was to come and they were to meet at my grandmother's assisted living apartment. He called my brother to let him know he had arrived at the airport and was on his way in a rental car. He was running late and complained about traffic. Time passed and he still didn't show so my brother called him. He said he was in the building and was on his way up in the elevator. My brother waited at the elevator. The door opened and no one was in it. He called my father again. He said he was still in the elevator and was carrying a heavy plant. He was angry that no one would help him carry it. My brother looked everywhere and couldn't find him. He asked the desk clerk who said that no one of that description was ever seen walking into the building. They drove around the grounds in a golf car looking for my father. He called again......and now he said he was leaving because no one would help him with the plant. He said he was fed up and hopping back on the next plane to California. A couple of hours later we decided to call the police in CA and asked them to check my father's apartment where they found him. So apparently he had never flown to Florida.
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o, now we were concerned of course. We asked my father to consider moving closer to us. We missed him, he didn't see his grandchildren enough etc.......so he started looking at houses to buy in Maryland. Keep in mind his income and credit are in no way in good enough standing to purchase a house.

Two weeks ago I got a phone call from the police in the Pittsburgh airport. They sad my father was there and he seemed confused. Said his money had been stolen. He kept changing the amount of money that was stolen, then he said it was his wallet and then he said it was checks. We had the police officer put him on the next flight to NY where my brother picked him up. We convinced him to move into a retirement community about 15 minutes away from my house. For the first week he told us about this brand new car he had bought in cash. The second week, there was no more talk about the car. He was now saying he'd like to buy a car once he moved into his apartment. We convince him he needed a current physical in order to be approved for the apartment. I spoke with the nurse ahead of time asking that they test him for memory loss etc. They were unable to do more than just a physical. She said if it's really a problem that he would need to go to a neurologist. She said he seemed fine from what they could tell. That's how he appears to anyone, but for those who knows him, see that something isn't right. My brother convinced him to give him power of attorney so he wouldn't have to worry about his bills any more.

Right now my brother is in California with my father packing up his clothes. He found the camera that had mysteriously gone missing at his wedding over 5 years ago. It was in a shoebox, in a closet. There were pics of the rehearsal dinner on the memory card. My brother had asked him twice when it had gone missing if he was sure he didn't accidentally put it in his pocket. He said no, both times.
He's moving into him apartment on the 10th. We figure we give him time to settle in and then gently suggest he see a neurologist.

I'm wondering if anyone has an experience with this sort of thing? Alzheimer's? Stroke? Dementia? Compulsive lying? (sigh) :(
 

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Was your father always kind of like this? What does your mother have to say about it all, if anything? She would know how he is...if anyone would. Does your father have any other family who would have a clue what is going on?
 

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:( Maybe a blend of all those?
My oldest sister was a compulsive liar, very believable to anyone who didn't know her well. :( My ex son in law used to pull the gift in the mail thing for our grandson for years. He seems pretty normal now that he's remarried and he knows our grandson can see through the crap.

Alzheimer's generally hits the short term memory. All the older generation of my husband's family has it, so sad. And scary, too.
 

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I have a mother like your dad who was diagnosed with early-onset dementia at 47. My dad was no help, he just decided to hook up with another lady and start a new life - sent the checks and cards but no support or contact.
After many years of trying to be the "good daughter" and help her with seeking treament and doing the adult living situations (where she was asked to leave twice from and set fire to the third in her kitchen) - i had to take back my life and walk away from her situations and leave it to others to handle.
My sisters felt i coped out, and they resented they too had to take up the duty of handling mom. the bad feelings have pulled us apart to the point that we have no relationship together as family (we're all in our 50's with teens or older children).
I had my own family to raise with an alcoholic husband, a full-time career, grad.school to finish. I became so resentful and frustrated by the drama and exasperation that comes with dealing with a parent with dementia.
Sounds selfish to some, but to those of us who live(d) and tried to handle it - turning away and moving forward without that around you 24/7 was probably the best thing i ever did for me and my well being.
 

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erthymom2 said:
I have a mother like your dad who was diagnosed with early-onset dementia at 47. My dad was no help, he just decided to hook up with another lady and start a new life - sent the checks and cards but no support or contact.
After many years of trying to be the "good daughter" and help her with seeking treament and doing the adult living situations (where she was asked to leave twice from and set fire to the third in her kitchen) - i had to take back my life and walk away from her situations and leave it to others to handle.
My sisters felt i coped out, and they resented they too had to take up the duty of handling mom. the bad feelings have pulled us apart to the point that we have no relationship together as family (we're all in our 50's with teens or older children).
I had my own family to raise with an alcoholic husband, a full-time career, grad.school to finish. I became so resentful and frustrated by the drama and exasperation that comes with dealing with a parent with dementia.
Sounds selfish to some, but to those of us who live(d) and tried to handle it - turning away and moving forward without that around you 24/7 was probably the best thing i ever did for me and my well being.
:hugs
 

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MorelCabin said:
erthymom2 said:
I have a mother like your dad who was diagnosed with early-onset dementia at 47. My dad was no help, he just decided to hook up with another lady and start a new life - sent the checks and cards but no support or contact.
After many years of trying to be the "good daughter" and help her with seeking treament and doing the adult living situations (where she was asked to leave twice from and set fire to the third in her kitchen) - i had to take back my life and walk away from her situations and leave it to others to handle.
My sisters felt i coped out, and they resented they too had to take up the duty of handling mom. the bad feelings have pulled us apart to the point that we have no relationship together as family (we're all in our 50's with teens or older children).
I had my own family to raise with an alcoholic husband, a full-time career, grad.school to finish. I became so resentful and frustrated by the drama and exasperation that comes with dealing with a parent with dementia.
Sounds selfish to some, but to those of us who live(d) and tried to handle it - turning away and moving forward without that around you 24/7 was probably the best thing i ever did for me and my well being.
:hugs
Thanks for hugs - stay strong Sister cause you'll need it!!
 

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MorelCabin said:
Was your father always kind of like this? What does your mother have to say about it all, if anything? She would know how he is...if anyone would. Does your father have any other family who would have a clue what is going on?
Well, it was always hard to understand my father. He was a postman until he retired in 1997. He worked long hours and when he didn't he watched TV. He didn't get involved with his family for anything. He had a temper. On his good days he'd make jokes. The same jokes over and over again and each time he told it, it was like it was the first time he ever told it. Him parents always thought there was something wrong with him and I know he was on medication, which in those days was hard core stuff, and treated badly. Now that I'm older I can say he probably is slightly autistic or suffered some sort of brain damage due to those drugs he took. His sister has problems too. She had epilepsy as a child which went away, but then came back when she was in her 60s. She had brain surgery to stop it.
My mother recently told me about a time when my father had decided he wanted to take an accounting course in the evenings. After two weeks of going out like he was going to the classes he admitted he never went to the classes and had lost interest. She had no explanation for this behavior.
Something has always existed, but with age it's definitely gotten worse.
 

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erthymom2 said:
I have a mother like your dad who was diagnosed with early-onset dementia at 47. My dad was no help, he just decided to hook up with another lady and start a new life - sent the checks and cards but no support or contact.
After many years of trying to be the "good daughter" and help her with seeking treament and doing the adult living situations (where she was asked to leave twice from and set fire to the third in her kitchen) - i had to take back my life and walk away from her situations and leave it to others to handle.
My sisters felt i coped out, and they resented they too had to take up the duty of handling mom. the bad feelings have pulled us apart to the point that we have no relationship together as family (we're all in our 50's with teens or older children).
I had my own family to raise with an alcoholic husband, a full-time career, grad.school to finish. I became so resentful and frustrated by the drama and exasperation that comes with dealing with a parent with dementia.
Sounds selfish to some, but to those of us who live(d) and tried to handle it - turning away and moving forward without that around you 24/7 was probably the best thing i ever did for me and my well being.
Well, we started off wanting to push this whole thing as far from us as possible, but we've decided we just couldn't live with ourselves if something were to happen to him.
That's a terrible thing you lived with and I hope to God it doesn't get to that point. Right now we're just trying to make sense of this and if possible get him help/treatment.
 

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mrbstephens said:
MorelCabin said:
Was your father always kind of like this? What does your mother have to say about it all, if anything? She would know how he is...if anyone would. Does your father have any other family who would have a clue what is going on?
Well, it was always hard to understand my father. He was a postman until he retired in 1997. He worked long hours and when he didn't he watched TV. He didn't get involved with his family for anything. He had a temper. On his good days he'd make jokes. The same jokes over and over again and each time he told it, it was like it was the first time he ever told it. Him parents always thought there was something wrong with him and I know he was on medication, which in those days was hard core stuff, and treated badly. Now that I'm older I can say he probably is slightly autistic or suffered some sort of brain damage due to those drugs he took. His sister has problems too. She had epilepsy as a child which went away, but then came back when she was in her 60s. She had brain surgery to stop it.
My mother recently told me about a time when my father had decided he wanted to take an accounting course in the evenings. After two weeks of going out like he was going to the classes he admitted he never went to the classes and had lost interest. She had no explanation for this behavior.
Something has always existed, but with age it's definitely gotten worse.
Look into psychosis. And if you think it is, you' d be best to just steer clear of him from here on out. They are very very smart and use alot of things to thier advantage, leaving only wreckage in thier wake. Psychosis is not cureable and there is nothing you can do short of being the victim
 

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MorelCabin said:
mrbstephens said:
MorelCabin said:
Was your father always kind of like this? What does your mother have to say about it all, if anything? She would know how he is...if anyone would. Does your father have any other family who would have a clue what is going on?
Well, it was always hard to understand my father. He was a postman until he retired in 1997. He worked long hours and when he didn't he watched TV. He didn't get involved with his family for anything. He had a temper. On his good days he'd make jokes. The same jokes over and over again and each time he told it, it was like it was the first time he ever told it. Him parents always thought there was something wrong with him and I know he was on medication, which in those days was hard core stuff, and treated badly. Now that I'm older I can say he probably is slightly autistic or suffered some sort of brain damage due to those drugs he took. His sister has problems too. She had epilepsy as a child which went away, but then came back when she was in her 60s. She had brain surgery to stop it.
My mother recently told me about a time when my father had decided he wanted to take an accounting course in the evenings. After two weeks of going out like he was going to the classes he admitted he never went to the classes and had lost interest. She had no explanation for this behavior.
Something has always existed, but with age it's definitely gotten worse.
Look into psychosis. And if you think it is, you' d be best to just steer clear of him from here on out. They are very very smart and use alot of things to thier advantage, leaving only wreckage in thier wake. Psychosis is not cureable and there is nothing you can do short of being the victim
No. I wouldn't say so. He's not harmful to himself or anyone around him. Not intentionally anyway. I should say, that he no longer has a temper like he used to. We've been going on hikes with him the past 2 weeks. He's mostly pleasant, but sometimes the things he says are weird. He's a little annoying and get's into our business constantly. He also hums. All day long. Constantly. My brother knows some one who also hums and he had had a stroke. That's why I was wondering if maybe he had had one too.
 
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