Coronavirus Concern Up

[Sassafras II]

How And Why America's Food System Is Cracking

Before government shut the nation down, Americans ate half their meals outside home. The farmers are now dumping meat, veggies, and milk.

thefederalist.com

 

[tortoise]

WI's stay-at-home order is over, due to supreme court ruling. pretty sure NOW is the time to hunker down. Depending on what people do, we could have an outbreak in 4 - 8 weeks. I'm curious. and staying home other than my brief trips out with a mask.

 

[BarredBuff]

Meat is high here, and is being rationed out. I just sent it at the grocery store. I did buy some spices really cheap to lay back.

 

[TexasLisa]

True Death Rates:
One Chart Exposes....

 

[tortoise]

True Death Rates:
One Chart Exposes....

There's a couple problems here. You can't predict death rates from one country to another because countries have differences among the population. different demographics, different fortifications of food supply (vitamin D is relevant to death rate here), rate of testing, etc. You can get a better mortality analysis here:https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

It doesn't work to pick a country with a lower death rate and then say that response is inappropriate in our country because that other country has a lower death rate.

The only reason to compare is to be misleading, IMO

USA has the highest death rate from COVID-19, with the observed case-fatality rate of 6%. In the USA, 6% of the people who get COVID-19 will die from it. That's 25.71 per 100,000 people.

What are the risk factors for severe COVID-19? metabolic syndrome (24% of US population), diabetes (10% of US population), obesity (40% of US population), vitamin D deficiency (42% of US population) , high blood pressure (45% of US population).

What causes weak immune systems? one night of sleep short sleep duration can do it. But 25 - 50% of the US population doesn't get enough sleep either

This is the kind of stuff that matters. Among comparable countries, USA has the worst health, lifespan and mortality rates. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK154469/

And that is why COVID-19 case-fatality rates are so high.

My state may just have re-opened but this isn't over yet.

 

[wyoDreamer]

I believe that all the data from the US is misleading at this point.
We have been only testing sick people. How many people didn't have any symptoms, never felt sick, but had the virus and recovered - yet they were not tested and are not part of the statistics. Those are the numbers that we are missing to give us a better view of what is happening in this country and compare to other countries
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Take for example, an island nation of NoWhere. There are 1000 people in the country. 100 of them felt sick so we tested them. 10 of them tested positive. 1 died. Those numbers say that 1% of the population got sick (10 out of 1000) and 10% of the sick died (1 out of 10). Is that really accurate?

 

[baymule]

@tortoise I do believe you are right, this ain’t over yet. My advice to everyone—stock up on everything you can think of. I think the virus will come roaring back this winter.

 

[Britesea]

I'm not worried about the virus so much as all the evils that may occur as a result of the pandemic. A global depression to rival that of the 1930's, global famine, riots and bloodshed by desperate people, skyrocketing rates of suicide, abuse, depression, substance abuse, more opportunistic diseases.

I'm worried about those of us who have been prudent and put food by, and have gardens and livestock, getting all of those things ripped away from them by either rioters or gestapo-like thugs under the orders of our leaders, in the name of "redistribution" Do you really think you can hold them all off with a couple of guns? Maybe the first wave or two, but it won't stop with just one or two attempts. They(whoever "they" are) will come back repeatedly and in more strength, until they get what they want.

I hope that I'm wrong. But I'm worried.

 

[Lazy Gardener]

@Britesea we are headed for some very dark times. I tell everyone I talk to, that they should be stocking their pantries. The glazed eyes, dumb looks, and just plain stupid responses are enough to gag me. Says one relative... who just built a new house that is half again bigger than mine: "I don't have any where to store extra food." An other, who knows how to garden, knows how to can, has a pressure canner, and all of the equipment, (when I tell her how the meat supply is being destroyed, and she's even commented about how bare the stores are... when I suggest that she start buying up extra meat and freezing and canning it) Her reply: "that's an interesting idea." Just yesterday, a neighbor was admiring my garden. I pointed out all the potatoes I had planted. Her reply, "I know where I'll be coming for my groceries." My response: You better get planting your own garden, girl. Cause you're gonna need it."

 

[Hinotori]

When I chose my NP, I did so because of what she wrote as a description - wanting to use more natural, common sense practices over pushing pills. However, the first thing she does is offer a perscription for any of my health problems. And I don't feel like she is listening to what I am saying.
She sees my high blood pressure and wants me to take a pill, but she doesn't listen when I say I am not sleeping well (which can cause high blood pressure), I am obese (which can cause high blood pressure), I snore horribly (I think I need a sleep study), and other issues that I need to get addressed.

The doctors are making hubby get another sleep study. They know he has sleep apnea but he had issues with the last civilian place they sent him with the BiPAP not working and them not wanting to fix anything because they already had their money.

His primary care doctor or the physician assistant call hubby once a week and he sees one of them once a week right now. They had a list of meds and foods not to eat this week. They do have him on BP meds because he actually needs it to bring BP down to reasonable levels. Our cuff couldn't read him before it was so high. The diuretic has helped a ton on him getting fine motor control back as the swelling was bad.

So careful adjustments to meds and constant monitoring. They are trying to use the least amount needed.

Doctor is heavily pushing exercise and eating better. He put hubby on a salt limit to get him not eating all the fast food and junk he loves. Perfectly reasonable salt limit of 2500 mg a day. Normal range for people is 2000-3200 to be healthy. Hubby for some reason decided to ignore what I was trying to tell him and decided that a fast food grilled chicken sandwiches were fairly healthy. I reiterated they had a lot of salt and he finally looked it up. He's finally on the bandwagon to not eat that crap.

The licorice restriction he's on right now is the worst thing for him. I told him Id let him have a couple pieces a week once he's in the 130s over 90s.

His MRI came back and it was a small stroke of the kind common to high blood pressure. He's getting better. It's noticeable changes over time.