Do you have the right to choose your own food source???

[abifae]

any links to the actual court proceedings? natural news doesn't have much track record of accuracy

not that i couldn't see the fda feeling this way. just curious what they actually said.

eta: here's the actual Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009 .

 

[Lady Henevere]

Here's the FDA's brief: http://www.organicpastures.com/pdfs/FDA dismissal documents FTCLDF CFR 1240.61 .pdf
And here's a link to the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, which filed the suit: http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/press/press-22feb2010.html

If you think we have an absolute right to choose what we eat or drink, just look at Prohibition. :/

 

[abifae]

a. There is No Right to Consume or Feed Children Any Particular
Food. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
b. There is No Generalized Right to Bodily and Physical Health. 26
c. There is No Fundamental Right to Freedom of Contract.. . . . 27


A only counts depending on politics. I mean, you can feed your kids **** as long as it's not straight from the toilet, as far as I can tell. It's only when you go healthy and off the grid the law gets called on

I'd think A would be akin to some doctors suing parents for neglect if they feed their children vegetarian?

B makes sense... we all know we don't own our bodies. That's fundamental in society.

C is pretty silly. Everytime you exchange cash for goods, that's a contract. *rolls eyes*

Although they're right... people have been regulating diet forever. The Bible might not be the most accurate document, but the strict rules of diet were how things were.

This is all part of living in a society. Humans can't be trusted to have self-responsibility. That's a fact, proven over thousands of years of history. Then again, my cure is anarchy, chaos, and a few good plagues.

eta: we're all rebels here. I bet just being on boards like this gets you marked on a govvie rebel flow chart some where.

 

[Wifezilla]

Oh heck yeah
LOL

"That woman is growing veggie on her patio! GET HER!"

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

I can just see it now - under ground greenhouses with grow lights - hidden under the swimming pool.

And everyone will have a "hidden room" in their basement where the mini jersey or milk goat lives.

 

[hennypenny9]

The sad part is that "they" have so convinced the general public that "they" truly care about the consumers health. Talk about raw milk to a random person, and they will tell you that raw milk is bad for you, and will make you sick. A co-worker and I were talking about how "they" are making real food unavailable and how soon it will be impossible to find non GM foods (already is hard), and from then on we were "weird." *coughbrainwashingcough*

(Sorry about all the quotes! )

 

[rebecca100]

When they were talking about NAIS I was thought about digging my barn into the side of the mountain in a cave to hide it. Or moving to another country.
I have to admit that it is hard for me to trust doing things myself. My dad wasn't the farming type and discouraged anything that wasn't storebought or done for you. So I grew up thinking mayo for example was some kind of weird thing that could NOT be possibly done at home. I just finished off a jar that I made myself. I loved being around farm animals and have learned from there. But there is always a fear in the back of my mind that makes me not trust anything that I make myself and I think most of the US is like that. It is really hard to "unlearn" things.

 

[patandchickens]

The sad part is that "they" have so convinced the general public that "they" truly care about the consumers health. Talk about raw milk to a random person, and they will tell you that raw milk is bad for you, and will make you sick.

Well, raw milk used to be a very serious public health problem.

The thing is, the world has moved on, the conditions that led to that no longer particularly exist AND good means for avoiding it now exist (whereas they didn't back in the 1800s).

It just takes a looooong time for advice and popular opinion to a) notice newly-arrived options and b) reevaluate the situation in light of those options.

I don't see that this is much different w/r/t raw milk than it is to a whole big lot of other things in life, except for there being a strong lobby involved as well. (But there is in a lot of other things too).

But leeriness of raw milk isn't ALL imaginary or silly, just insufficiently thought through in context of options currently available.

Just sayin',

Pat

 

[Mackay]

many states offer ways to get around purchasing pastuerized milk. This map will tell you where the laws stand in your state.

http://farmtoconsumer.org/raw_milk_map.htm

 

[abifae]

yep. i own a cow share to get my milk but they aren't allowed to sell cream or yogurt from their raw milk. they can, however, sell cheese.