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I was in formed I have these coming in the mail just a little while ago. My kids have a sense of humor hu?

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That picture of "stuff" makes me think I would rather attempt to build a solar panel......AND it would sure be quieter. If it makes you happy -- great!! Bet everyone here will be happy when gardening time begins -- uhhh, unless you work to "music" :lol:

But of course I garden to music. It's my secret weapon to drive garden bugs away from the garden. They simply can't stand the vibrations. My truck ain't called the veggie hauler for nothing after all :)
 

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Veggie hauler gets dual batteries and 350 amp 1/0 guage welding wire upgrade. No more disco lights flashing to the beat of bass :)

Batteries wired together and dual power and ground leads to and from the 250amp alternator. (Blue = + Green = -)
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Primary starting battery dual engine block grounds, frame, chassis ground and ground to secondary battery. Plus 300 amp fused + secondary battery.
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Secondary battery plus dual 300 amp fuses
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I saved a ton of money doing it myself and making up my own terminals. Lots of fun - I like wiring so it wasn't any trouble at all. Upon completion I could sense the electrical was "breathing" easier. Every thing is snappy now and the engine cranks strong! Basicly I doubled my cold cranking amps and opened up the electrical system so electrical can flow a lot easier than before with stock wiring.

Next on the list is a 12,000 lbs electric. winch.
 
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Rewired my behind rear seat amplifiers with 1/0ga and 2ga welding wire and tidied up all the speaker wires, RCAs and remote turn on wires, while I had the rear seat out of the veggie hauler.
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I re-turned my amplifers, everything was just about perfect... Although my wife got pissed at me for rattling a few pictures off the wall in the house while I was working on tuning the amps in the driveway (note to self do this when the wife is gone next time).

I had to run into town, then all of a sudden at normal listening volume it happened... Both sub woofers got loose, I smelt something burning. Then the sub-woofers voice coils unwound in the the baskets like a freaking slinky and my sub-woofer amplifier went into self protection mode. Needless to say I was really disappointed. I called the manufacturer and they are sending me brand new subwoofers so I guess that's ok... But still very disappointed none the less.

This is what the sub-woofer motors looked like after I took my pocket knife and cut the cone and spider loose from the basket so I could pull the voice coils to have a look. This is bad bad bad!!! I'm very surprised they didn't catch fire. But I bought amplifiers with really good protection circuity just in case... Well just in case happened!
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Just because I'm that kind of guy and I wanted to know if the sub-woofer self-destruction was something I did wrong or not - i got to looking over the subwoofers real close. What I found shocked me actually... The voice coils tincle leads are mechanicly attached to a terminal block (each subwoofer has two voice coils) via a wire lug, lock washer and bolt. We'll the bolts we're loose on 7 of the 8 connections. Everyone knows loose electrical connections cause all sorts of problems but perhaps the worst is heat. I mean lots of houses have burnt down due to loose wiring connections.
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So I shot a video of me taking my finger and moving the lugs around and sent it to the manufacturer. With a suggestion to use loctite and instead of a lock washer to use a star washer. They were very appreciative and called me like 15 minutes after I sent the email. They said they are stopping production to test my suggestion of adding loctite and a star washer... it felt good to actually have a manufacturer customer service person listen to you and take you serious and also move me up the management chain into the engineering department all while your on the phone.

Anyways I done my good deed for the day and hopfully improved this product a little. But man what a disappointment it was to experience subwoofer self destruction and for no good reason other than it would have costs less than a nickle per sub-woofer to fix :(

When my new sub-woofers come in you can betcha I'm going to the hardware store after star washers and adding a dab loctite to each bolt and tightening the nut on the terminals real tight. While I'm at the hardware store I'll also be picking up a fire extinguisher for the veggie hauler (just in case).
 
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So glad they didn't caught fire and GREAT that the company listened to your suggestions for making their product safer. A few years ago we had a car catch fire not far from our farm due to an electrical fault. Scary stuff!
 

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So glad they didn't caught fire and GREAT that the company listened to your suggestions for making their product safer. A few years ago we had a car catch fire not far from our farm due to an electrical fault. Scary stuff!

Yes me too... I'm really glad I did my homework and purchased amplifiers with protection circuity. If I hadn't I'm 99% sure I would have had a fire. Some people have little to no concept of the basics of electricity.

The way I have the veggie hauler setup it generates more amperage (power) than what comes into my house from the electric company. Amperage is amperage irregardless if it's 12 to 14.4 volts DC (automotive) or around 220 volts AC (house). My meter main in my house is 200 amps, the veggie hauler generates up to 250 amps. Although I really need to bump it up to 350 amps before I put my winch and snow plow on. I planned all my wiring for 350 amps so it's just a matter of adding an additional alternator and a couple more fused runs of 1/0 guage wire.
 

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This morning I had an eye doctors appointment @ 8:00am. When I pulled up in the parking lot about 7:45. I seen this older lady standing outside, as I pulled up her jaw dropped then I noticed she shook her head. So I figured I was being a bit a nuance so I cut the volume on the radio back quite a bit.

I parked and got out of the truck and as I walked by her I said Hi, how are you this beautiful morning? She said it sure is a beautiful morning isn't it? and I could hear you coming from two blocks away. I laughed and said, oh I'm sorry about that it does rumble a little bit I guess. She then said rumble and laughed, I could feel it in my shoes when you pulled into the parking lot. Then she said you play good music, not like those young kids, my friends and I have seen you in town a couple of times and when we pull up by you we roll.our windows down to listen.

Well that started a real conversation... Next thing I know shes sitting in my truck listening to the Guess Who No Time (her choice) and I showed her were the volume knob was and she was in control. You know that older lady got just shy of full volume. When the song finished she commented that she never in her life heard music that loud and clear before and not only "loud but thunderous". She got out and thanked me for the "experience" and I had to run into the eye doctor to make my appointment. It's kind of cool that even older people appreciate good music and the loud thing is just some new experience, which I totally appreciate.

When I walked into the eye doctors clinc, the receptionist asked me if that was me playing that loud music in the parking lot. I said yes that was me sorry... Oh no need to apologise we all like classic rock, besides Betty, she don't like much of anything. :Lol

I think next time I think I will cut the volume way down before I get to my destination - as to not drawing so much attention...
 

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My wife asked me a legitimate question... she said "i can hear your radio coming up the road a mile a way while sitting in the living room. When you pull up in the drive the pictures rattle on the walls. How loud are you gonna make that thing?" I said let me think about that a little bit and I'll get back to you.

So in the veggie hauler which is a 03 extended cab Chevy Silverado. I installed 12 professional grade competition speakers. In each of the 4 doors I have a 4" tweeter, a 6 1/2 midrange and a 8" subwoofer. Plus under the rear seat I have two 12" subwoofers in a wooden box I built tuned to 35 hz so that's 14 speakers. To power those 14 speakers I have a total of 4000 watts RMS (8000 watts peak) of class AB amplification in two amplifers. A 1500 watt 2 channel just to run the subwoofers and a 6 channel 2500 watt to run the door speakers channels 1&2 run the front door tweeters and midranges, 3&4 to run the back door tweeters and midranges, 5&6 run all 4 8" door subwoofers left and right doors. Plus I installed a 7 band equalizer to dial it all in.

In the engine bay, I replaced the old 140 amp alternator with a 350 amp alternator, added another battery just to power the radio, ran a fused 0 guage welding power cable back to the amplifers because we'll 4000 watts @ 14.4 volts really requires some amperage.

Despite that my wife can hear me a mile a way and the pictures rattle on the walls when I pull up in the veggie hauler. There may be a couple of more indicators that I really should say enough is enough.

1) with the volume on 1 of 35 my rearview mirror becomes totally unusable do to vibration from the 6 subwoofers.

2) at a volume of 5 out of 35 I have to loosen up my ponytail so.my hair covers my ears or else it's really uncomfortable.

3) at a volume of 10 out of 35 I get people pulling up next to me at stop lights rolling down their windows so they can listen to what I'm playing.

4) at a volume of 12 of 35. I vibrate the car in front of me at stop lights. I actually had a guy get out of his car and told me he thought something was wrong with his engine until he realized nope it was just my radio.

5) at volume of 15 of 35, cops pull me over because my radio is too loud! A friend of my daughter accidently orgasmed while sitting in the back seat (subwoofers are under the back seat) I didn't even know that could happen... opps sorry about that. When your coming up on your destination you have to turn down the volume so you can see out of the windshield clearly.

7) At a volume of 20 of 35 i find it very difficult to control my badder - so I don't go to this volume very often and only on a empty bladder. But it's like getting a total body massage. I also cracked my windshield and if you roll down a window which you really have to or the new windshield may crack again. Your hair will fly around to the beat like your in a wind tunnel or something. I mean who needs a hair dryer when got 4000 watts of radio amplification?

8) When I went into town this evening it was 52 degrees out side but I had to run the air conditioner because well 4000 watts of radio amplification makes the cab very warm... I may not need to run the heater that much this winter. Defrosting windows should be quick also.

So to answer my wife's question "how loud are you gonna make that thing?" Well I really don't know yet... I'm not done with it yet :)
 
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