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Sufficient-Self Preparedness Library

Discussion in 'Emergency Preparedness' started by Icu4dzs, Mar 25, 2011.

  1. Apr 26, 2015
    tc556guy

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    That's quite a reply. There will always be those who seek to preserve and protect knowledge for possible future wisdom. Sometimes its unwitting, like stuffing a bunch of scrolls into caves where they remain forgotten and undiscovered for millennia. Other times, more intentional in nature. We owe the monks and scribes from the so-called Dark Ages a huge debt. They preserved much information that otherwise would have been lost to us. Imagine what WAS lost to us through the passage of time and depredations of Man; the various great libraries and other knowledge of antiquity. I named my document collection after Alexandria, the most well known of those. I often think about how much of the early folk knowledge must have originally had a basis in science and study that was lost to us through time and ultimately became degraded information handed down word of mouth unless lucky enough to be copied down by some scribe somewhere.
     
  2. Apr 26, 2015
    Britesea

    Britesea Sustainability Master

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    A good read that will give hope to those who expect the world to go crashing back to the Stone Age is "The Knowledge: How to Rebuild Civilization in the Aftermath of a Cataclysm" by Lewis Dartnell. I may be a cock-eyed optimist, but I do believe there will be enough people left that will have the will and ability to create at least small enclaves of people that have not sunk to the level of a beast.
     
  3. Apr 27, 2015
    FarmerD

    FarmerD Lovin' The Homestead

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    Alexandria was burned. The monks only passed on what the church deemed appropriate. Those that can maintain or rebuild society will have to defend themselves against those with power, muscle, weapons, and little to lose. We will just have to agree to disagree. I don't fault what you're doing, but I don't agree that it will make the impact you intend. Good luck none the less
     
  4. Apr 29, 2015
    Icu4dzs

    Icu4dzs Almost Self-Reliant

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    I guess my only comment is "why bother with going to the Kaczynski cabin..." if no one is going to survive the "big event"? You send "mixed messages".
    Despite the fact that everything you said was within parameters, True, I guess my personal perspective is that you only have to go "back in time" as far as you want. I'm fairly pleased with the things I know about the 20th century and if I can live the remainder of my natural life that way, so be it. If someone or something snuffs out my life, well the only thing will be to return and go through it all over again. but then, I digress.
     
  5. Apr 29, 2015
    FarmerD

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    its my purpose, my goal, something to strive for as it all crumbles around me. as things should disintegrate in populated areas first, it'll buy me some time before i have to face the same music as everyone else.

    if civilization dies, it wont do so in a vacuum. its not like "those" people in CA will just disappear as they run out of water. they will head east, and conflicts will begin to arise as less resources have to get divided up among more people. we on our little homesteads wont slide by completely unaffected while the cities descend into chaos. when the grid goes down, when money is worthless paper, when there is no police to call, no internet, no gas available, no seeds available in the store, no more craiglist chickens or goats to buy, then we will be in the stone age. farming will become a hand operation, and i dont believe the 300+ million americans will stand by and starve like the cubans did while we try to figure out how we are going to feed them all.
     
  6. Apr 29, 2015
    Britesea

    Britesea Sustainability Master

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    Even your doomsday books, like One Second After, has people pulling together and protecting their community, and as a result they were able to defeat an army of baddies. Selco (I don't know his real name) survived a year of his city in Bosnia being besieged; the primary message he sends us is that you can't do it alone- you need at least a small band of brothers to help. And any time you have groups of people working together, their talents, skills and knowledge will have a synergistic effect- even if they haven't been specifically preparing for TEOTWAWKI. A slide into the stone age is highly unlikely. It didn't happen in the Dark Ages and I don't think it will happen now. We may fall back to the steam age. I know that at least here in the Pacific Northwest, the landscape is littered with old steam powered machines from the lumber industry, and a large number of people with the skills to get them running again. I think the same is true for farming equipment elsewhere. Even if all of the ores, oil and coal that were close to the surface and easily accessible are mined out, there are materials that can be recycled or substituted. And with libraries of books such as this one, we can relearn the skills needed.
    During Hurricane Katrina, one of the few building unmolested by looters was the Public Library. Yes, I know the Library of Alexandria was burned (several times, actually), but books were not as pervasive in the early years of the Common Era. Every podunk town in America has a library. They won't ALL be burned. Although we only have about a 75% literacy rate (lamentable!) in our country these days, that's still vastly more than Rome in its prime. I would venture to guess that even if there is no public education available, parents who read will continue to teach their children to read.

    I do agree that there will be a terrible mortality rate at first. Thousands, perhaps millions will die. But others will live- whether by luck or design, and they will rebuild civilization. It's what we do.
     
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    Britesea

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    Icu4dzs

    Icu4dzs Almost Self-Reliant

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    Given the completely dissociative approach you seem to have taken, why not just invest in a dose of cyanide and take it now? Then you could avoid the "rush" when all the city folks in LA come looking for your stash and decide to kill you to get it.

    Obviously, you like to flame. Frankly, I find it boring and a waste of time. Why not post on someplace like BackwoodsHomeforum and tell them I sent you...
     
  9. Apr 30, 2015
    FarmerD

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    Well ok then. Wasn't trying to incite a riot, just an opposing veiw. Good luck with the library.
     
  10. Apr 30, 2015
    frustratedearthmother

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    Wow, just wow.

    Why start a topic on a public forum if you can't tolerate another person's opinion?

    There is a difference between a debate and being a bully.
     
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