Sufficient Self's Bible Study Group

[Old Sew'n'Sew]

Ours was a talk on the Creation mostly from the book of Isaiah and Genesis, plus an in depth study of Romans Chapter 8 about walking by the spirit not the flesh.

I would like to get some of you'alls thoughts on this classic Bible puzzle if I could: Where did Cain get his wife? Its kind of a fun study to look it up and figure it out.

 

[Denim Deb]

No puzzle whatsoever. People only read that Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. They completely ignore Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters. It wasn't until the time of Moses that laws were handed down prohibiting the marriage to a near relative. So, Cain either married a sister or a niece.

 

[BarredBuff]

No puzzle whatsoever. People only read that Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. They completely ignore Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters. It wasn't until the time of Moses that laws were handed down prohibiting the marriage to a near relative. So, Cain either married a sister or a niece.

Yeah, and if you notice with other men of the Bible they usually only list the sons they begat.....

 

[Wannabefree]

No puzzle whatsoever. People only read that Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel and Seth. They completely ignore Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters. It wasn't until the time of Moses that laws were handed down prohibiting the marriage to a near relative. So, Cain either married a sister or a niece.

I agree and from a scientific standpoint there is little to back up the ideas that there would be issues with the offspring of such pairings. That notion is shrouded in myths and lies because incest is so taboo. What we call incest and frown upon is the way we all got here. We need not support incest now, because we have so many other choices, but it was once the only way to reproduce.

Also, genetically the human race was more pure then. There were no "cancer genes" or any other polluted genetics that were dominant enough to produce disease and birth defects like we have today. The gene pool was at it's best then, and the only feasible way to reproduce would be to marry a close relative. I believe the way we get our differing "races" now are results of the first genetic "mutations" for lack of a better word. There really is only one race of origin.

 

[Beekissed]

From what I've been told, theologists believe that all the genetics for all the races were present in the first man and woman, so their children could have been born with any skin color or other trait that those genes contained.

The races/colors/differences were believed to have been separated by language during the time of the Tower of Babel, with the different languages naturally colonizing together to avoid confusion.

It was also believed that the different pigmentation of the skin/hair caused those people to migrate to where the weather was best suited for their bodies. Fairer-skinned people to cooler, less sunny climates, darker people to the more extreme climates at the equator and the poles.

We were created in His image, not in mutations of His image. It would be hard for me to believe that God is white and all the other races just accidents of genetic mutations.

 

[CheerioLounge]

We were created in His image, not in mutations of His image. It would be hard for me to believe that God is white and all the other races just accidents of genetic mutations

Amen!

 

[Wannabefree]

HA I knew that word would get someone riled up I just couldn't think of a better word. I do believe white as skin color is the backdrop color...kinda like all chicken eggs are actually derived from the original blue color(is that right? second guessing as I typed it). Anyway...It could have been another color, who knows, but it seems like genetics I read somewhere pointed toward white as the probable origination of other skin tones, but then like I said, who knows, and who knows how biased the article may or may not have been for that matter.

Where the bible says we are made in His image...what is the physical image of God? Does it mean skin color and all that, or is skin color specifically a human trait designed by Him? I said mutation because any derivation of the original can be considered a mutation in genetics. Certain genes lay dormant forever then come out in the great great great great grandson or whatever. My point was a copy of a copy of a copy is never as clear as the original. The original is always the purest.

I think the seperation at Babel was the root of some of our physical problems and disease because it severely limited the gene pool within the different areas. One genetic issue got pronounced here and there. Just as an example, look at sickle cell anemia. Why does it just effect Africans? If the original man had this in his genetics, why don't we see white people with sickle cell too? So yes, I do think there are mutations. God allows in His design for things to go wrong. If not, explain autism, being born without limbs, blind, sterile, or any number of birth defects. Or even stillborn babies.

I believe we are created in His image, and there are no limitations to what that indicates. I come from a long line of crappy genetics. Does that make me less of God's child? Less created in His image? Because I'm white, and Jesus, according to where He lived very probably was not white, does that make me less Christian? No. We can't all look exactly like God. Call it what you want, but I say it is mutations of the originals I never used the word accidents.

 

[MorelCabin]

Aww come on everybody, ever read "The Shack?" God is a big black momma with a big smile and an attitude

 

[CheerioLounge]

My understanding is that all human beings can be traced genetically to Africa. As we advanced and spread out across the globe we slowly adapted; through generations and generations, to our new environments. Thus the changes in physical appearance. A little simple, I know.

The basic point, IMHO, is that we are all each other's family. Regardless of our physical attributes or geographical origin.

 

[Wannabefree]

Yes Cheerio..I am your sister MWAHAHAHAAAAAAA Scared yet?

Seriously, is it Africa? Cool!! I'm a light skinned African American I don't really understand what all the fuss about color is anyway. I think it's pretty cool we're not all just alike I like diversity! Some folks have had some reallllly crazy ideas about race over the years though huh?