Xi said: "China is Battling a Demon Virus"

[creativetwinszoo]

This outbreak has me thinking about SHTF scenarios. Not that I think it will happen with this, but thinking about what we would do if our food supply was compromised, what if there was an outbreak and we needed to isolate ourselves? Interesting thoughts. I have a few things to change to be prepared for situations like that.

Most stores in the usa are less than 3 days away from empty and panic from most people. Most people have less than a weeks stored food so this is a good thing to think about. No better time to fix that for your home than to start now. $1.00 stores are good for tight budget prepardness

 

[CrealCritter]

@CrealCritter , while decreased travel might suggest that oil prices should fall, that might not be the case. Any excuse to raise those prices is used, whether it's a legitimate excuse or not. If anything, I expect cost of all goods will go up if this disease is not quickly contained.

Oil plunges as coronavirus outbreak threatens demand

Oil prices remained under pressure Friday morning as the spreading of the coronavirus threatened to weigh on global demand.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Lazy Gardener]

Thanks, NOT! @CrealCritter . I was thinking it's about time to rustle up some lunch. But, now, I'll have to wait until that evil pic is cleared from where it's been seared onto my retinae!!! Hmmm... she wonders... I wonder if the fuzziness of that morsel would overpower the crunchiness?

I do wish I could take advantage of falling oil prices. we need to replace the oil tank before filling it. The tank is ancient, so we are buying oil 100G at a time until we get it replaced in the spring.

 

[CrealCritter]

🤢 That bat did not look pleasant and given its size I just dont think itd be worth the effort even if I was really, desperatly hungry.

Also just curious knowing that snakes might carry it, would thoroughly cooking the meat kill off the disease (like with pork)? Or is that an unknown currently??

Adding in that If a really serious shtf situation happens as more people get desperate to eat there will be less qualms about (someone else's words I heard at school recently) "eating some weird a** animals and sh*t."

There is a ton of speculation out there and not many facts. That being said... It stands to reason (to me) that handling many different species of live wild animals in a open air market destinatined for the dinner table is not wise. Cooking a live animal, is simply beyond my moral compass, let alone mistreatment of animals, which is also beyond moral compass. But both appear to be "somewhat" common in the Communist Party of China.

you raise "the big question".

The only thing I can say is, the Chinese culture and Communist Party of China government is a lot different than Americans' culture and government. I can also say with confidence that the internet is full of all kinds of misinformation, regarding this topic.

 

[baymule]

@tortoise Stock up on foods that y'all eat and rotate them. A bucket of beans, rice, macaroni, and such may not be a gustatory delight, but would keep you alive. I have a 5 gallon bucket of beans that has gotten old. Still edible, but needs to go. So when I raise feeder pigs this year, I'll cook up those beans, then restock with fresh beans. LOL LOL

Another thing to consider is to keep plenty of canning lids.

Bat soup. Gross.

 

[creativetwinszoo]

There is a ton of speculation out there and not many facts. That being said... It stands to reason (to me) that handling many different species of live wild animals in a open air market destinatined for the dinner table is not wise. Cooking a live animal, is simply beyond my moral compass, let alone mistreatment of animals, which is also beyond moral compass. But both appear to be "somewhat" common in the Communist Party of China.

you raise "the big question".

The only thing I can say is, the Chinese culture and Communist Party of China government is a lot different than Americans' culture and government. I can also say with confidence that the internet is full of all kinds of misinformation, regarding this topic.

I agree. No animal deserves mistreatment or a cruel life and even more so a cruel end. A quick end as compassionate as possible and a good life too is a must, it's part of the reason I want to raise my own animals, so I know they got the best they could get and I could verify it too.

All those animals in such a small space and the cleanliness of the market/process space does not sound like it was a good situation at all

There is a lot of misinformation and a lot of confusing sources too. It sucks because a lot of it is spun towards how most news sources think different people want to hear it, rather than just straight up facts on what's going on

 

[Lazy Gardener]

I have a combination of lid sizes. I use small mouth where ever practical, since the small mouth lids are a bit cheaper. And, the small mouth lids fit some of the purchased jars of sauce that I have bought in the store. When ever I buy jarred spaghetti sauce or such, I choose a brand that has a mason jar thread, so that I can re-purpose it in my canning. I re-use all of my lids that are in good shape for future HWB canning. My son bought me some tattlers also, but... I have yet to try them. I also put up a lot of 8 oz. jars. Do those even come in large mouth size?

One place where large mouth jars really shine in multi purpose use is when sprouting. They make sprouting lids that fit the large mouth jars.

I can appreciate the convenience of buying ALL large mouth jars, and only having one size of jar and lid to use. Please let me know how well they work, when you use the Tattlers.

 

[creativetwinszoo]

yes! Very much this! ^^ My brother gave me some reusable Tattler lids. I haven't tried them yet. Most are regular mouth and all my jars are wide mouth. So... I am not sure. Do I want the ease of all one size more than I want reusable canning jar lids?

I've been wanting to use tattlers! The reusable option sounds great if a shtf situation happened, cause eventually manufacturing of the metal lids may stop or one may not be able to get anymore easily, but I dont know anyone who's tried them. Let us know how you like em if you try em?

 

[Lazy Gardener]

The bigger issue re: canning after SHTF is this... would any of us have adequate fuel/cooking options to safely can? In theory, one could HWB over an outdoor flame. But, pressure canning would not be an option. One could build a solar dryer. IMO, it's best to be able to do such things before necessity forces a steep learning curve.

 

[creativetwinszoo]

The bigger issue re: canning after SHTF is this... would any of us have adequate fuel/cooking options to safely can? In theory, one could HWB over an outdoor flame. But, pressure canning would not be an option. One could build a solar dryer. IMO, it's best to be able to do such things before necessity forces a steep learning curve.

I've been figuring out how to do this, it's been a bit easier here I think cause we get a lot of hot sunny days.