Coronavirus Concern Up

[wyoDreamer]

I will wait to be vaccinated until a more conventional vaccine is approved. I don't feel comfortable with the rush for approval on a "new" treatment. I don't think they really know the long term effects. I am very supportive for those who want it to get it - be the guinea pigs and prove I am wrong. Some people can get very nasty about the vaccine, my attitude is: I respect your choice, please respect mine.

 

[henless]

I take immunosuppressant meds for my Rheumatoid Arthritis. I also have asthma. I have no plans on taking the vaccine. I'm not comfortable with the rush job that has been put on the vaccines to get them approved. In fact, no one in my family plans on taking it.

Zantac was just taken off the market because it can cause cancer. It's been out for years. What is this going to cause on down the line? I hope nothing.

This is something everyone must decide for themselves.

 

[Lazy Gardener]

I think you will see an "explosion" of people wanting their kids to go to private, and christian based schools.... so that the parents have a "say so" in the way their kids are taught, and the things that are and ARE NOT forced upon them like these "vaccines" that are gene therapy and not true vaccines.

Just a couple weeks ago, we had an impromptu meeting in Church office. (just a few of us who happened to pop in to the office at the time, so... no clout, no decision making, just pushing a few ideas around) We were discussing the state government and school board over reach, and "How should we as a church respond to this in order to be good stewards of our resources and train up our children as God intends us to do?" The building sits empty all week long, for the most part. There are lots of class rooms, and public space. Even a small play ground, a bit of a field, a big parking lot. It would be a fantastic opportunity for parents to develop teaching/home school co-ops and use local church buildings as base of operations. In the past, we tried setting up a church based day care, but it failed for a number of reasons. The only way this school co-op would work is if PARENTS stepped up to the plate and took ownership of their kid's education. I would love to see such a thing happen, and would be willing to donate 1 - 2 mornings/week to see it happen.

An other thing that local churches could do is sponsor kids to get them into the already existing and well functioning Christian schools. Perhaps local churches could become satellite locations for the already functioning Christian schools. The time to act is now. If we don't take care of our kids and give them a well grounded education, the current battle is already lost.

 

[Lazy Gardener]

I have to say that I agree with you all. I'll just suggest that we all continue to keep eyes and ears open, and seek to speak love into the lives of those around us.

 

[TexasLisa]

The COVID-19 Test No One Is Talking About: Make Sure Your Children Have It Before They Are Vaccinated

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The COVID-19 Test No One Is Talking About: Make Sure Your Children Have It Before They Are Vaccinated​

We are already seeing colleges and universities requiring the COVID-19 vaccine for students to attend classes in the fall. The vaccine is being tested for children under 16, and there may be school districts that attempt to require it in the fall. All of this pressure to vaccinate the young, given their relative resilience to severe disease and near-zero fatality rate from COVID-19, is unprecedented. The health bureaucracy is not nearly as insistent about the flu vaccine, even though it often makes children much sicker and often carries higher fatality rates in children.


To encourage you to vaccinate your children, the experts from the CDC and NIH were on television this weekend recommending that children remain masked until vaccines are approved for their age cohort and they receive them. This advice is just bizarre given what the science says about children passing the virus to adults. It is so well known that Switzerland told its citizens last April that children under ten could resume regular contact with their grandparents. The health experts also know that immunity in exposed and recovered patients is robust. There was also preexisting immunity in some portion of the population based on exposure to other coronaviruses. Yet, the CDC and NIH have not clearly conveyed this to Americans.

Senator Ron Johnson went on Tucker Carlson Tonight and shared that his doctor recommended he not receive the vaccine at this point because he has successfully recovered from the virus. This medical advice is entirely reasonable based on the current science and is the purpose of the doctor-patient relationship. Johnson also stated that he was concerned about the push to vaccinate children without full FDA approval. The vaccines are still given under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) because of incomplete safety data for their use at any age.

The lack of understanding of recovered immunity is so poor that MSNBC anchor Brian Williams accused Johnson of doing the bidding of Vladimir Putin. Williams went on to say that Johnson’s statement was exactly what a Russian asset would say. On CNN, Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra appeared to agree with a host when asked if there should be laws keeping unvaccinated people out of buildings. According to the CDC data on COVID-19 effectiveness, this rhetoric is next-level insanity.


According to CDC data, through May 10, 2021, the rate of hospitalization after being vaccinated was 0.000690%. The chances of COVID-19 being fatal was 0.000157%, or, effectively, one in a million. A person’s lifetime risk of dying in a car accident, crossing the street, or falling from a height is all well under one in 1,000. So, why are we being told to mask children and behaving as if unvaccinated people without symptoms pose an outsized risk to the vaccinated?

All of this becomes even more astounding when you learn that the FDA has given a EUA to a test that identifies preexisting T-cell immunity. This test goes beyond simply testing for antibodies from a recent infection. Instead, it tests for T cells, which are like sentinels. When they detect cells infected with a virus they recognize, they kill them and trigger antibody production. Destroying infected cells stops virus replication inside them and calls in the other immune cells to find and inactivate any viruses circulating in the bloodstream.

The FDA approved a test called T-Detect on March 5. According to the press release:

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for the T-Detect COVID Test developed by Adaptive Biotechnologies. The T-Detect COVID Test is a next generation sequencing based (NGS) test to aid in identifying individuals with an adaptive T cell immune response to SARS-CoV-2, indicating recent or prior infection with SARS-CoV-2.

According to the developer’s website, T-Detect identified 97% of past PCR-confirmed COVID-19 infections, while antibody tests only picked up 77% approximately two months after the illness. The chief scientific officer for adaptive technologies, Harlan Robbins, also noted:

As infection rates continue to soar, T-cell testing can help us understand the true prevalence of COVID-19 in our communities as well as the degree to which our population is protected from future infection. At the individual level, the availability of a T-cell based clinical test could be useful for people who suspect they may have had COVID-19, but were either unable to get tested or had a negative PCR test at the time of their illness, and who want to know for sure whether they had the disease.

Oddly, I can find only one local news story and one each on Bloomberg and Yahoo News covering the availability of this test. Where is the head of the FDA encouraging people to get tested for this immunity before getting vaccinated? Why are the government and insurance companies covering the vaccine and the COVID-19 test but not the test for durable immunity to the virus?

Once it was discovered that there was the possibility of preexisting immunity, just as they found with H1N1, this type of test should have been a public health priority to assess the real vulnerability in the population. It wasn’t, and a legitimate question is why. It would have provided much richer and more accurate data about the actual risk to the population for severe disease and refined any mitigation steps. Knowing this information could have reduced the damage to the economy, our children’s education, and the effects of isolation that we will be dealing with for years to come.


Before vaccinating children or young adults, parents should strongly consider testing them for a T-cell reaction first. This population rarely suffered a severe illness, but it’s possible they were exposed and had an immune response. Parents should also demand that schools and colleges accept evidence of an immune response in place of proof of vaccination.

One of my children reacted to the diphtheria pertussis and tetanus (DPT) vaccine and received just the DT portion for the rest of the immunization schedule. Then this child had pertussis, also known as whooping cough, as a toddler. A titer test, similar to T-Detect, was always sufficient proof of immunity for schools and colleges. It is unclear why COVID-19 should be any different now that this test is available and operating under the same authorization from the FDA that the vaccines are.

 

[Lazy Gardener]

Today, I encountered a FIRST in my state. I went into grocer, and Lowes. In each store, I encountered a single person w/o a mask, so I immediately removed my face shield, and I was not accosted. In the feed store, a patron came in as I was finishing my sale. He did the head smack, and stated he'd forgotten his mask. The salesman said, "Don't worry about it!" Folks, this is completely new. Prior to today, sales associates would immediately tell the customer to mask up or leave. Police arrive in force if one does not comply.

On the home front, 2 of my nieces state that they will continue to wear their masks, even though they've had the jabs, b/c "they just know that unjabbed people will be going mask free. Hello... they are "protected" so why should they care? Hypocrisy and idiocy at it's finest.

 

[Beekissed]

 

[Britesea]

I believe that one of the causes of the obesity epidemic in this country is the c**p that they call "food" is so deficient in nutrients that our bodies keep screaming for more. When we eat REAL food, minimally processed, we tend to eat less because our bodies are satisfied.

 

[Britesea]

I believe the dosage among animals for Ivervectin is by weight. Since most pharmacies refuse to fill the prescription even if you find a doctor willing to prescribe it, if I end up needing it I will probably buy it from a feed store and plug in my weight for the dosage. I will NOT take the vaccine, even if/when it becomes extremely difficult to function in society without it. I can do fairly well without such a society. I will find the inevitable black market to purchase what I can't manufacture myself; I have no minor children they can take from me "for their safety." There are still a few things that I need to figure out if it gets that bad, though...

 

[CrealCritter]

Please read carefully! I'm calling BS on the magnetic meat challenge.

so my wife just came home from Kroger. I said "there better not be any chicken in these bags I'm carrying" she laughed and said "with all we have raised and in the freezer, no way I'm buying chicken at the store" I said "smart".

So I took out various cuts of beef including some hamburger and put them on the table. My wife said "what are you doing?" I said "the magnet meat challenge". Then she got interested 😂.

So I grabbed this magnet off of the refrigerator. It's a strong magnet that I used to use when I hung many lbs of wet grains to drain back into my brew kettle.

Then I proceeded to hover the magnet over the packages of meat expecting a pull. But nothing. Then I pressed the magnet onto a steak that was wrapped in plastic and it stuck. I picked the package up and tilted it and the magnet slid right off. After doing this several times. I quickly came to the conclusion the magnet only stuck due to surface tension of the plastic. And I already know it would stick to moist meat for the same reason, so I didn't try that.

Now if my magnet were machined smooth and or small, like those used in the internet videos, I could probably get a better surface tension stick. So I'm calling the Magnetic Meat Challenge, Male Bovine Droppings (BS).

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