Healthy Fats and Oils.......IMO!

[reinbeau]

Just keep in mind, there are trans fats in animal fats, but they are the natural kind that our bodies can deal with properly. There's a difference between them and the manufactured garbage they've been feeding us for years now! I know most of you know that, but those who still think 'fats are bad' need to understand the distinction.

 

[Wifezilla]

I think what is being currently taught about diet is criminal.

I agree that fats should be the smaller part of the diet.

I don't. A healthy range for fats is between 60-70% of calories...but I am radical like that

 

[noobiechickenlady]

If you really think about it, prior to the industrial revolution the majority of fats in the average person's diet came from animals or from gently rendered sunflower seeds, olives, ect. And then think about the Plain folk, they tend to eat a more fat in their diets than the average american, but they are also healthier, their cholesterol levels are fine. Their rate of diabetes is less than half the average american's, even though they tend to have about the same rate of obesity as the average caucasian american. IMO because they literally work their tails off and use sensible methods of raising their animals & food.

I switched to butter & olive oil only years ago.

Thanks for this info & friendly debate.

 

[me&thegals]

Just keep in mind, there are trans fats in animal fats, but they are the natural kind that our bodies can deal with properly. There's a difference between them and the manufactured garbage they've been feeding us for years now! I know most of you know that, but those who still think 'fats are bad' need to understand the distinction.

I have always read that trans fats are only created in a factory. AFAIK, the only exception is in dairy animals, where the churning in the gut or wherever actually creates a tiny amount of trans fats.

 

[reinbeau]

Nope, there are naturally occurring trans fats. That's what they modeled the artificial ones on. It's in lard, butter, I think in most cheeses, too. But it isn't harmful to us. The man made stuff is.

 

[DrakeMaiden]

We've only been eating margarine for the last 200 years or so.

Just to clarify, it is only in the last 50 years or so that our society has been exposed to margarine.

Otherwise I agree with most of what has been said in this thread.

 

[Wifezilla]

Remember Oleo? That became popular in the early 70's around the time that prices and inflation got out of control and butter got really expensive. It was supposed to be SO MUCH HEALTHIER than butter.

I now buy butter in bulk whenever I can and make Ghee for deep frying. Ummmmmmmmmm...gheeeeeeee

 

[FarmerChick]

most is good info in this thread



the minute we walked away from a real nature diet of raw meats, raw veggies, etc. etc. we changed how the body functions.

now it is time to find the real food in life and cut the man made stuff as much as possible.


Does anyone need to fry food? No

.....do we love the taste, yes...HA HA.......so best to find the right balance and hope we do well.

 

[freemotion]

Sylvie, I think they use inferior parts of the pig fat, too, and hydrogenate it so it is firmer, so they don't have to use just the leaf lard (the fat that makes the best and firmest lard). That is what prompted me to start rendering my own lard, then I found out I can get the fat for free.....even better! So I will get all I can this fall and use it for soapmaking, too. The best leaf lard for eating, the rest for soap.

 

[freemotion]

Nope, there are naturally occurring trans fats. That's what they modeled the artificial ones on. It's in lard, butter, I think in most cheeses, too. But it isn't harmful to us. The man made stuff is.

Can I see some science for this? It is not what I have read. Trans fats refers to changing the position of the hydrogen molecules in the lab, TRANSferring them to another position to make the fat molecule behave like a saturated fat molecule....straighten it out so it can pack more tightly and is solid at room temperature.

Many writers and lecturers use the terms trans fats and saturated fats interchangably, this is very incorrect.

Many earlier studies linked the two as well, this is also incorrect. The harm is now proven to be done by the trans fats, and although there were saturated fats present in the studies, it was along with trans fats, since they were thought to be healthy at that time. When they are separated out in more recent studies, it becomes apparent which ones are the culprit in the serious health conditions....diabetes, cancer, heart disease, elevated cholesterol, etc.

One of the big problems is that trans fats trick our bodies. Our cell membranes are about half saturated fats.....remember, cows and pigs are mammals just like humans are, we are made of the same stuff. If we eat trans fats, the body is tricked into using them to build our body structures, including cell membranes. The problem is that the delicate communication and absorption and utilization of foods, etc, that takes place in each cell membrane cannot happen in the areas where the trans fats make up the cell membrane. It is like the groceries are getting delivered to a house that is boarded up and no one can answer the door or open the windows to let the food in.

In the case of weight management and diabetes, the food needs to go somewhere....so the insulin (delivery boy) escorts it into fat storage. One of several factors in diabetes, but an important one.

Also, animal fats.....lard, tallow, chicken fats.....are made up mostly of a combination of saturated fats and monounsaturated fats.....similar to olive oil, just different proportions. Chicken fat has some polyunsaturated fats, which makes it much softer, and if the hens are free-ranging, some of that is the very valuable Omega III's.


Trans fats are still in almost everything that is processed. Because manufacturers can use very poor quality soy, canola, and other polyunsaturates to make the hydrogenated fats, it is extremely cheap, so it is in EVERYTHING. How it is legal is beyond me, as it is so obviously a very dangerous poison.

Still to come....how to make your doctor cry.....