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I think that is supposed to be 'fishing' 
Need imput/approval regarding new official journal "questions" list...
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Dawn419
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Not sure on that one myself...freemotion said:I don't understand #8....what is "rishing?"
Maybe a typo for fishing?I've called this to Nifty and the other Mods' attention so hopefully we'll hear from them soon!
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Oh, duh! 
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I'm going to go ahead and sticky this for now (just found that magic button 
) so that it doesn't get lost in the journals.
Being without a computer for 2 years IS NOT like getting back on a bicycle and riding!
) so that it doesn't get lost in the journals.Being without a computer for 2 years IS NOT like getting back on a bicycle and riding!
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Typo....should be fishing.....freemotion said:I don't understand #8....what is "rishing?"
Dawn419
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We've basically got Nifty's go ahead on this, so let's make it what we want it! 
I think it'd be great to let it run for a bit and get other peoples ideas on questions so we're not forever changing it but I like what I see, so far!
Rishing got me with explosives or bait...since moving from South Jersey, I'd never heard of using explosives before. But at the same time, if ya can't use bait and want to use explosives, welll, just up it and go:
Noodling
Can you say, Fish Fry!!!
I think it'd be great to let it run for a bit and get other peoples ideas on questions so we're not forever changing it but I like what I see, so far!
Rishing got me with explosives or bait...since moving from South Jersey, I'd never heard of using explosives before. But at the same time, if ya can't use bait and want to use explosives, welll, just up it and go:
Noodling
Can you say, Fish Fry!!!
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I agree, D419. Specific and not archaic. Drop the modern refs, and get to the heart of personality, human desires. The big questions that SD and others are working on, lean towards a more intimate understanding of what our ss friends are thinking. A better understanding among friends is always a good thing.
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I do think some kind of question on energy might be good.
Do you have solar panels?
Have you ever lived completely off grid?
Do you use a wood stove for heating or cooking?
Do you have solar panels?
Have you ever lived completely off grid?
Do you use a wood stove for heating or cooking?
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Friends all,
The suggestion SD is making is a good one and I like many of the questions that have been suggested. However there are some concerns I have about the depth of some of those questions and I will share them with you all here.
First, I have no idea where to find the original list of questions so finding this one should be easier technically, I would hope. The questions in that list appear to reach for a specific socio/cultural perspective that tells us how much we are "alike" and really divulges very little factual/important information about us and our "resources". Yes, Disneyworld has more to offer adults...but it educates children. Do you remember "The Land"? It was the reason I have been there twice.
Second, I would refer you to a post I intiated a while ago about "Who reads what we write" and then ask you some questions about the current proposal. Most of us do share the same goals and aspirations to be as completely ss as possible. Many have a variety of reasons all of which are valid, particularly to those whose reasons they are. However, it appears to me that the answers to some of the questions are perhaps a little TMI. It would seem kind of reasonable to keep ones' personal information just a bit more private unless that is the type of information you want publicised to the entire world. As I said in my other post, I would assume there are folks reading these posts (lurking I think you call it) who are doing internet reconaissance for their own (sometimes nefarious) purposes. The question therefore is just how much information do you want to share with them?
On the other hand, we use this list of questions to establish a baseline of shared purpose in what it is that we as SS'ers do. It might be wise to share the more "personal" or financial detailed answers as "PM" rather than out in the open unless you just don't care who knows what you have, where you have it and why you have it. I'm not convinced all our readers are as honorable as we would like to believe. We've seen some "interesting characters" come and go. What do you think their purpose has been? Does anyone actually know what is true? Does anyone really tell you their "real" information? Remember, this IS the Internet. How many of us actually know that one of the readers is NOT in some other country that might want to do you harm?
While I have been on this Forum, I have enjoyed the conversations wth the SS'ers here. Without a doubt the folks who are truly making the effort (the "ants" in our society) are easy to distinguish in their approach to the subjects and issues we face.
I am not convinced however that everyone who comes and goes here or anywhere on the Internet for that matter has the same honorable purpose. I guess I am suggesting we be a bit more careful about what really personal information we divulge in terms of issues that could cause us certain problems or disastrous consequences later.
As one of you signs their notes "Ignoring reality does not relieve you of the consequences of ignoring reality" (or words to that effect. with apologies to the author) The answers to some of these questions can be easily extrapolated for use by those who would collect "INTEL" for purposes other than "witty banter" between good, well-meaning friends.
The world is no longer a safe place for anyone. Our country is (in some places) no longer safe. How many of you have walked through a barrio in Lost Angeles or NYC or Detroit or even a smaller city/town near you? 911 has shown us that we are still asleep on this issue. We have learned that our country has been infiltrated by the enemy. Any of you who doubt this need only look around you. Do you absolutely trust everyone you have met or know? My guess is that there are some "new folks" who may have moved into your area; about whom you know little if anything, but they just seem to be able to "show up" at interesting times. Some are coming as workmen who weren't called by you, some are any number of "disguises" but they manage to "show up" at your place and "oops, wrong address, sorry!" and leave. What did they learn on their "fact finding trip"? They move in and out of areas with no particular rhyme or reason. Many of them are on "General Assistance" or what ever you call welfare. Where do they come from and where do they go? How many of them wear "colors" on their heads? Why?
Now all of you who immediately assume that I am insufferably paranoid, might just think about what I am saying before making that diagnosis. You may be right but after you have seriously considered what I am saying and really look at what is around you, the answers to these questions may or may not be the things you want some folks to know.
In the immortal words of Siegmund Freud, "even paranoid people have enemies". The "rules have changed" and we Americans are still trusting of every one around us because they are here in America. I am suggesting that this may not be as wise a decision as it once was for we who so trusting of our friends and neighbors might think. Additionally, this loss of trust of our neighbors and friends has to be examined as that is the intial step in destroying our society. Think back to East Berlin. Think to any tyranny that has neighbors "informing" on each other. It is a technique by an opposing "force" to destroy the fabric of our American society and to break our American Spirit. We need to be able to see it and defend ourselves from it if we are to stop what they are doing, and YES, it is THEY. This is not a single individual it is a movement and we need to be able to see it for what it is.
Sorry this is so dark, but things are changing around us at a velocity that is difficult to comprehend. "Keep your butt down, your head on a swivel and your powder dry" folks!
YMMV
Remember, if you want to know, Think Right, too!
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The suggestion SD is making is a good one and I like many of the questions that have been suggested. However there are some concerns I have about the depth of some of those questions and I will share them with you all here.
First, I have no idea where to find the original list of questions so finding this one should be easier technically, I would hope. The questions in that list appear to reach for a specific socio/cultural perspective that tells us how much we are "alike" and really divulges very little factual/important information about us and our "resources". Yes, Disneyworld has more to offer adults...but it educates children. Do you remember "The Land"? It was the reason I have been there twice.
Second, I would refer you to a post I intiated a while ago about "Who reads what we write" and then ask you some questions about the current proposal. Most of us do share the same goals and aspirations to be as completely ss as possible. Many have a variety of reasons all of which are valid, particularly to those whose reasons they are. However, it appears to me that the answers to some of the questions are perhaps a little TMI. It would seem kind of reasonable to keep ones' personal information just a bit more private unless that is the type of information you want publicised to the entire world. As I said in my other post, I would assume there are folks reading these posts (lurking I think you call it) who are doing internet reconaissance for their own (sometimes nefarious) purposes. The question therefore is just how much information do you want to share with them?
On the other hand, we use this list of questions to establish a baseline of shared purpose in what it is that we as SS'ers do. It might be wise to share the more "personal" or financial detailed answers as "PM" rather than out in the open unless you just don't care who knows what you have, where you have it and why you have it. I'm not convinced all our readers are as honorable as we would like to believe. We've seen some "interesting characters" come and go. What do you think their purpose has been? Does anyone actually know what is true? Does anyone really tell you their "real" information? Remember, this IS the Internet. How many of us actually know that one of the readers is NOT in some other country that might want to do you harm?
While I have been on this Forum, I have enjoyed the conversations wth the SS'ers here. Without a doubt the folks who are truly making the effort (the "ants" in our society) are easy to distinguish in their approach to the subjects and issues we face.
I am not convinced however that everyone who comes and goes here or anywhere on the Internet for that matter has the same honorable purpose. I guess I am suggesting we be a bit more careful about what really personal information we divulge in terms of issues that could cause us certain problems or disastrous consequences later.
As one of you signs their notes "Ignoring reality does not relieve you of the consequences of ignoring reality" (or words to that effect. with apologies to the author) The answers to some of these questions can be easily extrapolated for use by those who would collect "INTEL" for purposes other than "witty banter" between good, well-meaning friends.
The world is no longer a safe place for anyone. Our country is (in some places) no longer safe. How many of you have walked through a barrio in Lost Angeles or NYC or Detroit or even a smaller city/town near you? 911 has shown us that we are still asleep on this issue. We have learned that our country has been infiltrated by the enemy. Any of you who doubt this need only look around you. Do you absolutely trust everyone you have met or know? My guess is that there are some "new folks" who may have moved into your area; about whom you know little if anything, but they just seem to be able to "show up" at interesting times. Some are coming as workmen who weren't called by you, some are any number of "disguises" but they manage to "show up" at your place and "oops, wrong address, sorry!" and leave. What did they learn on their "fact finding trip"? They move in and out of areas with no particular rhyme or reason. Many of them are on "General Assistance" or what ever you call welfare. Where do they come from and where do they go? How many of them wear "colors" on their heads? Why?
Now all of you who immediately assume that I am insufferably paranoid, might just think about what I am saying before making that diagnosis. You may be right but after you have seriously considered what I am saying and really look at what is around you, the answers to these questions may or may not be the things you want some folks to know.
In the immortal words of Siegmund Freud, "even paranoid people have enemies". The "rules have changed" and we Americans are still trusting of every one around us because they are here in America. I am suggesting that this may not be as wise a decision as it once was for we who so trusting of our friends and neighbors might think. Additionally, this loss of trust of our neighbors and friends has to be examined as that is the intial step in destroying our society. Think back to East Berlin. Think to any tyranny that has neighbors "informing" on each other. It is a technique by an opposing "force" to destroy the fabric of our American society and to break our American Spirit. We need to be able to see it and defend ourselves from it if we are to stop what they are doing, and YES, it is THEY. This is not a single individual it is a movement and we need to be able to see it for what it is.
Sorry this is so dark, but things are changing around us at a velocity that is difficult to comprehend. "Keep your butt down, your head on a swivel and your powder dry" folks!
YMMV
Remember, if you want to know, Think Right, too!
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ICU4Dz, Which specific questions do you feel are TMI? We could perhaps re-word them to encourage people to be vague with certain details. Such as under the state/climate question we can put something in parenthesis warning people to not be too terribly specific, we don't need to know the addresses of the other folks, but we do need to know if our climates are similar when we start discussing our SS topics, so it is relevant. People should be encouraged at the beginning to "answer only those questions that you wish", or "none if you prefer", this is just a starting point for a conversation. We could even say something like "We don't need you to be so specific about yourself so as to leave you vulnerable to theft, identity or otherwise." I was wondering about the question "how much land do you have?" since some folks reading might have no land and feel they don't belong. Perhaps something more like...."How much space do you have to work with?" is less specific. In my case much of my land isn't useable so that is a different answer so I didn't think of that until now, but that might be better than asking what people own.
I left off "name" on purpose, we refer to each other by usernames so it is not needed.
Farmfresh, your questions are just the kind of thing we needed and I'm adding them to the list.
Dawn, thank you for your help and I do think letting this thread run for a long time before we make it official is a good idea, so anyone who has imput can do so.
I left off "name" on purpose, we refer to each other by usernames so it is not needed.
Farmfresh, your questions are just the kind of thing we needed and I'm adding them to the list.
Dawn, thank you for your help and I do think letting this thread run for a long time before we make it official is a good idea, so anyone who has imput can do so.
