I made jelly for the first time! I made the juice a week or two ago and put it in the fridge. Had a good day yesterday and made two batches. Apple jelly and apple-mint jelly. No pectin for either. The mint flavor really dissipates with the boiling, so definitely use a pectin recipe for mint jellies! Yield was 4 half-pints apple jelly and 3 half-pints apple-mint jelly. I am a little more confident in knowing when it's done. The last similar recipe I made was marmalade, several years ago. I cooked it too long and it set up so hard we couldn't spread it at all.