I've been reading along on this thread since the beginning with much interest.
@baymule I also love your hair! And I really really like that it's long. I don't know why there's such an unspoken rule that white hair should be short. I think it's much prettier long. And I agree that it looked fabulous with a tan (and a great smile to boot!)
@tortoise thanks for the list of ingredients causing frizz. And for the whole thread. I was just about to reactivate it when the discussion restarted. The anti-frizz list is really helpful. I've tried different natural things. With varying degrees of success.
I tried coconut oil in my hair once as a conditioner, and figured it'd dry on a 2hr trip to my son's doctor. Nope! It looked like a 50's greased do! Ugh! Lol. In fact it "dried" with the hardened film of coconut oil so white cakey stuff in my hair. Horrible! Lol. Maybe that's why some people keep their hair covered!

of course THAT was the day we ran into one of my son's doctors that treated him as a baby. He had a hard time not focusing on my hair. It was super embarrassing. So I just held my head up and ignored it, but it's quite humiliating actually to know it always looks bad.
I tried some of the Maui stuff, but it had bamboo rather than the stuff
@Beekissed suggested. But I found that something in it left my hair a little too dry before the next washing. I just figured it was the bamboo, but maybe I'll have go back and look at ingredients again. Over time, I've tried vinegar, mayonnaise, coconut oil, baking soda, stuff with mint, rosemary, aloe, tea tree oil, CO.... My hair is past my shoulders but not straight at all. It's very BIG and wavy. When it's shirt, it's even bigger. I remember I spent a lot of money once for a family wedding. The lady was really excited and said she knew just what to do. She put giant curls in it. I almost cried when I saw it, knowing that once again, I'd look silly in the family puctures. Oh, and the look my dad had on his face! Kind of shocked! Lol! It was really really bad. Another time I spent almost $100 (a long time ago!) for another family wedding determined THIS time to look decent. I got a long spiral perm. And the only comment on my hair was "Oh, I thought you must have braided it last night!"

I determined never to spend that kind of money again on my hair.
I've always had horrible experiences with haircuts, and never know how to ask them to style it. Over the years, I've only met two that cut my hair in a way that really worked with my hair. (well, three, but one cost an absolute fortune, and I'm just not willing to spend that kind of money on hair. I only went that time because my sister pulled me in.) Both of them are 1000 miles away. All my pictures growing up look terrible. it's quite embarrassing actually. My high school graduation picture? One side curled in toward my face, and the other side curled out.

I just figured somehow, my hair was just meant to keep me humble...
I'm always pulling it away from my face, and it gets really hot and heavy. Soooo, I put it in a French braid or a pony tail just to keep it out of my way. I've had bangs most of my life, but I've grown those out. My hair is all different lengths because of the many attempts to "thin" it or layer it to keep it lighter. I'm refusing to touch it with a scissors right now hoping that just the weight will straighten and tame it a little. I've had some gray hair ever since hig h school. Cutting it short only makes it wilder. But keeping it long gets really hot, especially now that I'm back in Alabama.
My friend in WI is a hairdresser loves to play with my hair, but she likes to color it. And I'm not a fan because when you start that, you have to keep going back. I refuse to keep dumping more money down the tube.
Soooo, yeah...